FarraigePlaisteaċ @ FarraigePlaisteach @lemmy.world

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I'm not trying to say that marketing is empathetic. I'm saying that meeting people where they are at is.

Biodiversity is great. Abandoning confused users isn't. Those options can still exist without baffling the user.

"Marketing programming" understands the human condition and tries to facilitate people. That part - for all its other failings - is more empathetic than telling people who struggle that we refuse to "dumb down" the process for them.

"I cannot fathom how the idea of having choices could be considered, let alone by so many people to even make this into a controversy, to be bad design. That's the very thing that makes federation great."

Because for every choice presented, people want to know the consequences of each one before proceeding. It's a well understood problem in sales and marketing. People do not want to put themselves in a position where they have to undo. Companies like Apple do this very well. In computer shops, the reason staff are hired is to help get the customer from "wanting a laptop" to "choosing one laptop", rather than walk away feeling that they need to think about it more.

"Just look at a few of the most populated sites, and pick one that looks good. The choice makes 95% no difference in practice".

Maybe if they said that on the signup page it would help. I think it would have helped me. But just because you have a sense of what "looks good" doesn't mean the average person does. It's the average person that I want to interact with on the internet.

Maybe you're right, but I think that the issue isn't that everyone was on one server, but there was nowhere for them to go without loosing touch with the people they connect with there. The fediverse can easily give people an out and they can still stay in touch with the people they want.

"I started out on .world but didn't like their moderation and defederation practices, so I moved."

That works for me. But most of us here have been running linux boxes on ARM devices for so long that we have trouble relating to the average user. I met someone recently who makes great contributions to Reddit posts like fact checking and providing digestible research. They're not tech savvy and I doubt we'll ever have the value of their contribution here while things are as complicated as they are up front.

Absolute centralisation caused the mess. My suggestion is just initial centralisation. It lets people get active with the platform while they figure out the basics rather than paralysing them with options up front.

Thanks so much! I was using m.lemmy.world, and while it improves most things I struggle with a touch interface on a desktop. Your recommendation is great!

Edit: It seems this has a few teething issues. I'll see if I can describe them well enough to provide bug reports for. It would be great if this worked well enough for the average user.

"...especially when they have average intelligence."

People with average experience struggle with the new paradigm. Nothing to do with intelligence and that kind of elitism is the reason I first bailed on lemmy.ml. I would have thought that someone with average intelligence would recognise how many of the worlds problems today stem from people punching down.

Technical aptitude != emotional maturity

Nothing to do with TikTok or this generation. Most users find it complicated and insulting them won't change reality. I've learned that the hard way from my years trying to convert people to Linux.

What Lemmy and Mastodon need to do is to have one canonical instance that they manage well themselves. Everyone gets signed up to that initially and those who want to transfer to another instance afterwards can. That alone could have prevented BlueSky taking the lead the way it did.

Having at least one mega instance is really good, in my opinion. Whether we like it or not, many people struggle with the idea of the fediverse and how to function inside it. If they didn't have to think about it initially it would help them and the fediverse. BlueSky and the AT protocol should never have happened IMO. But people prefer them because the experience is "better".

I'd be so gobsmacked to escape capitalism that I don't think my imagination could catch up with me. I imagine some of us would be back in the holodecks reimagining it due to Stockholm syndrome.

Is there a problem with Lemmy.world? I joined this one to avoid tankies, but I haven't gotten familiar with the place yet (despite moderating a community lol).

That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won't do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they'd do it for it's political doppelgänger.

Well said.

We’ve been debating whether someone remembering a birthday is a reflection of how much they care or not.

I thought that was Nana Visitor in the picture but I was wrong. Damn, I was enthusiastic there for a moment!

This used to be a great feature for vintage computers. If the machine had internet, you could search with HTTP site instead of HTTPS.

The alternatives listed here might not require JS, but most if not all of them require SSL. Vintage computers struggle to support that. Anyway, Google is best avoided when possible so hopefully an alternative surfaces .

I'm crying (deservedly) in iOS

Yeah, I'm using Amperify app (iOS) and it's great. I'm very happy with my choice of Navidrome now.

My first day was like not having ADHD - at all. Never had that experience again unfortunately. So yes, I’m not surprised that it’s common.