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  • And for the record, I didn't come out swinging against neopronouns. I don't think there's anything wrong with neo-pronouns themselves.

    What happened is that I saw a community who

    • sexually harasses people
    • fetishizes violence and executions
    • fears and mistrusts the media (to an extreme)
    • draws harsh in-group out-group lines
    • blurs the lines of their opinions with irony
    • "the West"

    And I saw all that and double sets of pronouns including neopronouns, and I was like omg, it's Nazis pretending to be leftists. They act like Nazis, who ran with the pronoun thing and took it to the highest level. (I know now they aren't Nazi's, but the behavior makes a really bad first impression)

    The problem was never actually the neopronouns. It was the Nazi-like behavior that came attached.

  • You haven't contradicted anything I've said.

    I agree, I also live in reality, in a capitalist society, with labor-exploiting ownership overlord freeloader elites, and I will happily call them out for it.

  • You called them unhinged for having neo pronouns

    No I didn't, now that's a gross misrepresentation.

    I said it was unhinged that I was being told that I was literally Hitler because I think neopronouns are silly.

    If you think everyone who finds neopronouns impractical for real life is a Nazi, that sounds pretty unhinged, I still feel that way.

    some bigoted CNN lib who pays performative lip service to genderqueer rights

    Pfff, yeah when in that same post Hexbears couldn't tell the difference between a man and a person with a penis.

    If they took the time to investigate and understand and categorize everyone who threw shit at them it’d be a fucking full time job.

    Well I guess that's the way you justify sexual harassment.

  • Just for another use case, pronouns can help clarify if you prefer to be called sir or ma'am.

    I wouldn't call you a bigot for not having preferred pronouns though, that seems really silly.

  • I kinda agree with you but don't.

    Capitalism is about maximizing profit.

    Which isn't technically the same as "turning people into addicts".

    But maximizing profit is mathematically about maximizing sales and profit margins. Which is most powerful when maximizing demand or desire. The most potent form of demand is addiction.

    So addiction isn't necessary a design purpose of capitalism, but it's emergent.

    And it's not new, it dates back to the 1700's: https://www.etymonline.com/word/addiction

    Government regulations combat capitalism exploiting addiction with varying success in verying industries over the last several hundred years.

  • Socialist = Freeloader🙃

    I don't suspect you're someone who will debate in good faith, but I'll bite anyway.

    It's actually the opposite, Capitalists are freeloaders because they only need to own, and because they own, they can extract from the value of the labor of other people.

    If the means of production are shared among the laborers, then the laborers get to proportionally share the fruits of their own labor, without a freeloader owner skimming off without helping.

  • I got dozens of people telling my to post my dick because I said that neopronouns are stupid.

    I wouldn't consider myself a Nazi, I'm extremely anti-Nazi. I'm very involved in trans activism in real life. I'm in management - I changed schedule posting so that it includes pronouns. I ordered give out free pronoun pins (I wear one too). I correct people and guests when they misgender someone. I've been to marches and I've donated to events. I have a lil trans flag in my window. Real life trans safety and inclusion is important to me. (And why I'm off put when a Hexbear confuses all people with penises as automatically being "men") I'm not making these up to try to look a certain kind of way, this is all verifiably real and I can get you the pictures and receipts if you need them.

    Maybe I'm not pronoun progressive enough yet and I'll change my mind later. I still think neopronouns are stupid, and only part of chronic online-ness. I'm willing to consider that I might still be in the wrong here.

    But if you sexually harass someone and get 100 upvotes, you're punching down.

    If the mods delete any posts and ban users who call out sexual harassment, you're punching down.

    What I see is people who probably don't stand up to bullies in real life, they turn into bullies when they're the big fish in a little pond.