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  • I am not a eugenicist. Eugenicists think the world or people can be improved. I do not think the world or existence can be improved. I do not think humans can be improved.

    If you really are a "commie" (like your username) then you think the world and humans, or the system can be improved. You have more in common with eugenics than I do.

    Also, I am not a misanthrope. I do not hate human beings. I just think existence is an inescapable horror, that can never be fixed. That human beings and other animals suffer constantly.

    But I am in the minority in my views. I am in an infinitesimally small minority.

    You and the rest of humanity go on without me. I have no interest in the future. Or any of the innumerable schemes for utopia paradise: not christian/religious, not communist, not capitalist, not back to nature, not transhumanist, not satanic, not materialist, not idealist.

    People will do what they always do. I have no interest. We are all aimed at non-existence and there is nothing that can be done about that.

    I go delete all my replies now.

  • Thank you for reminding me of the pointlessness of talking to human beings.

  • You can still have ethics with no freewill.

    You just can’t freely choose your ethics.

  • What is so terrible about not reproducing?

    Nothing. Nothing at all.

    I didn’t reproduce. And all I feel is relief. I am happy that I had no children. They won’t have to suffer in this hell of a world.

  • Who said anything at all about “one segment of the population”?

    I didn’t. Maybe I’m wrong, but I didn’t see anybody in the present thread talk about “one segment of the population.”

    I do NOT think only one segment of the population should cease procreation.

    I think everyone everywhere should stop procreation.

    But they won’t. How could they, when humans have no freewill to choose?

    We will continue making more pointless copies of each other till some outside force stops us from reproduction, like a giant meteor hitting the earth or the sun expanding to engulf the earth or the earth becoming so hot masses of humans die from the heat or some massive highly fatal pandemic destroys humans.

    I can’t imagine what is so exciting about our existence in the first place, that causes us to continue on and on.

  • Genocide is not being suggested.

    Genocide is against the other’s will.

    I am not suggesting any kind of violence.

  • No. Genocide is murdering people. Genocide is violence against people. Forcing people, against their will to stop existing.

    Asking people to reproduce less is asking people (not forcing them) to exercise their own will.

  • No it is not. Eugenics is a pseudo-science about improvement of genetics. Period.

    Trying to avoid climate catastrophe is not about improving genetics.

  • No it is not. Eugenics is an attempt to improve the genetic quality of a human population.

    We are talking about an attempt to stop climate change. We are not trying to “improve” the genetics of human population.

  • Becoming a vegan anti-natalist is the most impact a person can make.

    I am uncertain of the numbers regarding both individually. You might be right.

    Personally, I think both are important.

  • Being vegan is the most impactful change that individuals can make.

    But we won’t change.

    It is totally hopeless.

  • “To get on track for the internationally agreed target of 1.5C, 22bn tonnes of CO2 must be cut from the currently projected total in 2030, the report said. That is 42% of global emissions and equivalent to the output of the world’s five worst polluters: China, US, India, Russia and Japan.”

    That last part will not happen.

    Zero hope left.

    The good news is that non-existence is paradise.

  • Goals.

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  • Thank you! Thank you.