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  • Okay, but then, why is AI useful? If you’re going to look at sources anyway, what’s the point?

    Because it summarises the results, it's like a search engine but better

    The rest? It’s wasteful and it won’t last.

    I'm using it for coding in a way that it isn't going anywhere, I'm using LM Studio with Qwen2.5 Coder and Mistral 7b, these are offline models so even if Alibaba or Mistral go broke they'll continue to work.

    Example of what it looks like:

    It seems like lots of people are using it in a similar way, no longer searching the web and clicking on sometimes 100 results trying to figure out a problem but instead using AI to answer questions:

    While originally it was constantly making mistakes there's now Chain of Thought and code sandboxing, it has gotten so much better so quickly

    So now I've got: web search summarisation, a far better reddit/forum search and summarisation, text to image generation and personal coding assistant, each of these in and of themselves would be an amazing program used by millions and that's ignoring using it for assistance with language learning:

    https://blog.duolingo.com/duolingo-max/

    song making

    https://suno.com/explore

    etcetc

    If it wasn't for the web being an absolute social media shithole with no moderation resulting in AI slop being pasted all over the place, AI would genuinely be the greatest tech revolution I've seen since the iphone.

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  • Well good news for Putin I guess, thanks to his stupidity NATO membership increased in size with Sweden and Finland joining and lots of other countries also looking at joining for protection from... Russia

    He could have integrated Russia more deeply into Europe, with the gas pipelines and supply of energy, France/Macron was constantly saying that Russia should be more integrated into the EU... but then he did this and now I doubt in my lifetime we'll see Russia be anything more than a pariah state

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  • So why didn't he say that instead of this special military operation to de-nazify ukraine? wth was that?

  • Arguing with people on the internet about geopolitics especially with regards to the European financial situation, my favourite hobby

  • i think it missed a few words

    Israel can take out the islamic regime in Iran allowing for a second revolution to happen

    i think that’s what he meant to say

  • clearly a play by the sick leaders of the state

    Yeah... the sick police...?

    NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb said she had "grave concerns" about the risk industrial action could pose to those "trapped in the city" after New Year's Eve celebrations at Sydney Harbour.

    "I haven't ruled out that I will recommend to government that we cancel the fireworks," she said.

    "It's that serious because 250,000 people ... come in during the day, they spend all day in the city but when it's time to go, when the fireworks are over, the job is to get them out safely and quickly and if there's no transport, we can't do that."

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-20/sydney-train-strike-industrial-action-what-happens-now-what-date/104747566

    typical police wanting to ensure people can get home safely and quickly, and not be trapped in the city... unreal hey guys? 🙄

  • True, your original post made me think of:

    OpenAI, Google and Anthropic Are Struggling to Build More Advanced AI - November 13, 2024 https://archive.md/kYe5n

    But we just had Deepseek v3 come out

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1hn8rcx/deepseek_has_released_exclusive_footage_of_their/

    It's doing incredibly well and was incredibly cheap to produce

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1hmxjbn/deepseek_is_better_than_4o_on_most_benchmarks_at/

    China is catching up extremely quickly to the west

    By 2026 we might have to recheck all those doomsday "AI is going to use all the energy in the world" articles

    edit: I just realised I'm commenting on one of those "AI is going to use all the energy in the world" articles :|

  • No he's right, AI news is out of date nearly as quickly as it's written, I've never seen a faster moving piece of tech.

  • This is set up to be a massive crash.

    For who? Who is going to crash massively? Google? Microsoft? Amazon? Are you are expecting these massively diversified trillion dollar companies to fail due to AI?

    Yeah, and what they’ll do is invent sources from thin air

    The sources are right there next to it? You click on them and it takes you to the source, could you maybe try it for 5 seconds and then get back to me before you just make stuff up? what are you, an AI?

    or draw made up conclusions from real sources

    This feels like I'm having a conversation with a boomer talking about wikipedia.

    Yeah, it's always best to check the original sources and not just believe everything you read on the internet, no different than clicking on results in google and getting a page full of misinformation which people are doing every minute of every hour of every day, and don't even get me started on social media.

  • The fact that web searches are getting worse is biasing your ability to objectively evaluate AI searches

    Web searches were getting worse long before AI came along, SEO spam has been a thing since forever, maybe we're rose tinting our own glasses because Google was so much better than Dogpile and Altavista?

    Ironically, the bot articles are being written by the AI that you’re defending

    I know and I think the search engines should do something about them (however I suspect they won't as it'll make their results even worse somehow), if I want AI results I will use AI, I wish wikipedia had a health portal that was more personalised? like something to replace all the health websites like webmd/healthline/verywellhealth which now that I look at them closer appear to be slightly done up AI websites anyway, eg. just summarising research papers... so now that I think about it they might be next to go so long as ai is quoting sources which:

    Unless I can cite the results of a search it’s useless to me

    Gigabrain (already linked) and Perplexity does this:

    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-lemmy-ml-Q_mHphL3T.i2dA16PDKtAw

    When using social it's summarising reddit, when using Academic it uses academic sources:

    You can also use AI for language learning:

    https://morpheem.org/

    To quote Mistral 7b:

    A bubble in finance is when the price of an asset or security rises far above its true value due to speculation and hype, fueled by investors buying with the expectation of selling at a higher price. Prices rise based on market sentiment rather than fundamental value, creating a self-reinforcing cycle until enough investors realize the bubble's unsustainability and sell, leading to a sharp decline in price and potential losses for those who bought during the bubble phase.

    I'm certain there are plenty of companies that have latched onto AI and gotten a temporary stock price boost, Nvidia is doing extremely well based on its hardware being king for AI, out of this but I'm not sure where the dot com style bubble is?

    In crypto it's easy to point out, the whole thing is practically a bubble that never seems to pop, but where is the bubble in AI? Is it not a financial bubble you're talking about but a hype one?

    Maybe some AI companies will go broke (maybe openai? or claude? or mistral? maybe?) but we still have all the open source models so the tech will still be here, it ain't going anywhere

    https://huggingface.co/models?sort=trending

    Not only that but from all the examples I've given you, AI to me provides a ton of genuine value, it is valuable to me as a programmer, it does provide search results that I find useful, it does generate images that I think are useful, people are using it to make music videos that are popular (11 million views in a month):

    The Drill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbXZoMocpM8

    Songs: AI Took My Job https://suno.com/song/14572e0f-a446-4625-90ff-3676a790a886

    It's hard to say it's a bubble when the value is clearly present, whether you can make a ton of money off that value is something else, but the value is definitely there

    Do you actually trust the shit the AI feeds you?

    About as much as I trust anything on the internet or reddit, if I'm not sure, I just search a bit more, there's no limit to searching, I can search all day ^^

  • as someone who uses ai daily i’m not sure what could replace it, ecosia search results are sometimes ok (i haven’t used google in years) but a lot of the time the questions i ask have bot style “articles” with the exact same page layout anyway, so no use there or i don’t get my question answered

    When I want real world opinions on a product or thing i used to pop site:reddit.com on the end but now i use https://thegigabrain.com/ as it does a far better job with searching and summarising the posts into useful information

    then i use usually a 7b or 14b local llm using gpt4all, lately i use reasoner which has a built in javascript sandbox

    https://www.nomic.ai/blog/posts/gpt4all-scaling-test-time-compute

    basically you can watch ai fix any errors that it generates in real time and produce better coding results which helps me code and i have a home battery powered by solar so no grid usage there

    finally i use https://chat.mistral.ai/chat when generating random ai images which i think are funny or interesting or i’m not at my pc

    i’m probably 75% ecosia 25% ai but that 25% gets me answers and is invaluable, not to mention the answers are getting better every week as opposed to web searches which appear to be getting worse

  • this is getting to hawk tuah levels of stupidity

  • because muslims have a book with instructions from a being that lives in outer space that tells them that sexual deviancy is morally reprehensible and shouldn’t be encouraged or allowe

  • i didn’t say the author is 10, i picked a random age

    i could have said really 6 years olds stressing over property prices? yeah right

  • the original article:

    Labor’s social media ban will not benefit young people

  • and you believe the majority of kids are having one meal a day?

  • ban is for under 16s

    i also strongly doubt that social media is doing much to help the kids who are stressing about those things

  • was this written by ai?

    The statistics show that much of young people’s declining mental health is caused by social issues such as the cost-of-living crisis, housing insecurity and fears about the climate emergency, much of which can be sheeted home to government policies.

    really 10 year olds worried about cost of living and housing??

  • Just let people live how they want to live!! I don’t understand why it’s so complicated for Christian fundies to understand that.

    What makes you think Christian fundies have ever been about "Just let people live how they want to live!!" which appears to be a 1970's hippie inspired slogan?

    Almost the complete opposite of what Christians and Jews and especially Muslims are about.