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  • Yep and it looks like China is well on its way to being independent of the USA in the AI arms race, I just saw they are pushing out their own GPU models:

    Chinese GPU Manufacturers Push Out Support For Running DeepSeek’s AI Models On Local Systems, Intensifying the AI Race

    https://wccftech.com/chinese-gpu-manufacturers-push-out-support-for-running-deepseek-ai-models-on-local-systems/

    Gotta say between them going all out on renewables reducing their reliance on oil and gas and all in on EV's and tech, it really feels like China has just stolen all of the EU's ideas and is straight up beating them over the head with it :(

  • And about the command creation, it is laughable to waste this kind of energy on this easy of a task.

    You better watch out or I'll generate another image

  • Looks like it is comparable to the US Stargate announcement, the money is coming from private companies and going into private investment, which is amazing, I wish France24 had been a bit more specific:

    Meanwhile, the French financing will include commitments from the United Arab Emirates, American and Canadian investments funds and French companies like telecommunications firms Iliad and Orange, and aerospace and defense group Thales

    A few days before France’s AI Action Summit, which kicked off on Monday, the UAE said it would invest between 30 billion euros and 50 billion euros in the construction of a one-gigawatt AI data center in France as part of a campus focused on the technology’s development.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/10/frances-answer-to-stargate-macron-announces-ai-investment.html

    European companies investing in Europe AND into leading edge technologies? Crazy

  • An Airbus style company would be awesome, I'm absolutely certain after Trumps latest round of insanity there's a lot of countries that would like some supply chain diversity with EU chips to ensure China or USA can't rattle them too hard

  • Yes it would take a lot of effort, the EU certainly has the money but seems content at the moment to throw it at America

    The fabs you see on US or EU soils are few generation behind

    Looks like Arizona already producing 4nm so not too far:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/tsmcs-arizona-fab-21-is-already-making-4nm-chips-yield-and-quality-reportedly-on-par-with-taiwan-fabs

    The first Fab 21 phase 1 module will officially start mass production using 4nm and 5nm-class process technologies. The next Fab 21 phase 2 is expected to follow in 2028 with 3nm-class process technologies. By the decade's end, TSMC expects to build its Fab 21 phase 3, which will produce chips on 2nm-class and 1.6nm-class nodes and their variations with backside power delivery.

    But outside of TSMC it looks like just Samsung competing in the space, as you said Intel miles behind and AMD sold off all it's fabs

  • Heya!

    Are you blind? There are so many things suggesting AI is a past thing already.

    ?? Really like what? I must be blind, Deepseek just made GLOBAL headlines, like my own local logan radio station mentioned it on its news the other day!

    The Paris AI summit is happening right now:

    On 10 and 11 February 2025, France will host the Artificial Intelligence (AI) Action Summit, gathering at the Grand Palais, Heads of State and Government, leaders of international organizations, CEOs of small and large companies, representatives of academia, non-governmental organizations, artists and members of civil society.

    https://www.elysee.fr/en/sommet-pour-l-action-sur-l-ia

    It's being held at the Grand Palais which is very fancy :)

    If you're seeing something to suggest AI "is a past thing already" feel free to let me know

  • 100% agreed, it's funny because Europe has ARM and ASML, Taiwan is cool with the west and can produce chips, you even technically have a GlobalFoundries fabrication plants in Dresden so you can design and produce the chips, design the underlying instruction set but for some reason Europe just can't put the whole thing together into a competitive product

  • What can you really do to prepare for something like this? Specifically against the US which is:

    Iron Ore to China: China was the dominant market for Australian iron ore, accounting for around 85% of exports. This amounted to approximately AU$115 billion in value in 2023, with over 736 million tonnes shipped in 2022

    vs

    Steel to America: United States: Exports of steel to the U.S. were much higher, totaling US$237.51 million in 2023. Key products included flat-rolled and semi-finished steel2.

    https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-much-iron-ore-and-steel-do-5bWZvTZeRqSNQSlFbu1MBg

    I'd like to know more about just how big our steel industry is apart of the exports pie especially compared to iron ore but I suspect we may be blowing this tariff out of proportion

  • I've seen it mainly used to assist with python scripts which work well not sure on how well it does shell scripts

  • Building a cheaper model that's not as good as the top AI models is not the best way to build AI models, cheaper yes, but Deepseek isn't the best AI model out there, it still gets beat by Googles/Claudes/OpenAI etc

    A better way would be to combine the Deepseek training optimisations with raw power of Americas/nvidias hardware

    We're still at an early stage with AI, there's nothing to suggest we're anywhere near the end of Jevons paradox

  • The only problem is you used MSN which is using the Daily Mail as a source? An American source using a UK (garbage dump of a) source to report on Australia? :\

  • yeah it's definitely an assistant not a cheap developer... or is it :O

    Devin just came to take your software job… will code for $8/hr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhIm-Dk1pzk /s

    I'm learning javascript and love it, so much easier to query Mistral/Qwen/Deepseek Distilled than scrolling through endless search results hoping someone ran into the same problem I did

    I also run the AI models in LM Studio on my own machine so I'm happy with that as well, I try to self host where I can

  • I think the saddest thing here is that Europe has no capital markets union where it's own private companies should be putting this money in

    Europe will always be behind while it's more difficult to raise funds and do business

    This AI is just the latest thing, who knows what else Europe will soon fall behind in

  • People around me will cheer for this since they are not working in the programming industry

    I don't know how you can say this when programming is one of the best uses for AI