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  • Fair enough, political definitions are rarely well-defined.

    I guess people often use it to mean the more internet-savvy, meme-posting, trolling right wing.

    Yeah, that's how I understood it... Not really something Eich seems to do much.

    I'm not sure why anybod would think it's not connected.

    Just because Eich has awful views doesn't give license to also be awful by throwing around random other accusations or connecting him with trolling skinheads. Remember, even the Nuremberg Trials had defense attorneys, so let's stick to the high road of justice, not the shitty cesspool that the far right wants to drag us into.

  • Please, go back and carefully read what I wrote. I've said nothing about whether I find Eich's donation morally acceptable or not, let alone anything beyond that. You seem quick to condemn on nothing more than circumstance. The far-left is just as illiberal, regressive, and unjust as the far-right.

    Beware of groupthink. It makes for smooth brains.

  • In my experience, anybody who claims morality is "clear cut" is probably naive, otherwise they're selling a cult. The fact that you think my line is questioning is suspicious without knowing anything about me or anything beyond this thread makes me suspect it's the latter, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

    Yes, it's a philosophical debate. That's why I'm here, on the Internet, asking philosophical questions, to spur debate.

  • I agree, it ought to be a hard line.

    Question is, though, where's the line? We don't all come with the same exact moral compass, and we're all perfectly capable of rationalizing evil, so you can't just say "be a moral and non-bigoted person" and expect the desired outcome. Plenty of slave owners worldwide were convinced that slavery was not just morally admissible but even admirable.

    No matter where that line is, it needs to be well-defined and agreed-upon, or else it's arbitrary, and thus open to abuse and corruption by demagogues.

  • Sure, but "alt-right" means something specific, and I was missing the jump of reason ... but this thread has gotten pretty heated, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised people were weirdly upset by what I thought was an innocent question.

    Oh well, it's the internet, after all.

  • Momentum. And it's likely most people won't be about to tell, or regularly run comparisons to find out for themselves. Theres enough value added to Chrome that people kind of assume it's "the best" ... It took me years to convince my boss to switch, but the one thing that did it for him was just that the PDF viewer is better in Firefox.

    People have weird preferences that don't always line up with what software developers expect.