Ensign_Crab @ Ensign_Crab @lemmy.world

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This isn’t about “hating progressives”, it’s about integrity.

And by an astounding coincidence, democrats aren't required to have any while anyone to their left must be perfect in every way.

Centrists spent more than a decade screaming "purity test!" at anyone who expected better from the party that centrists ran into the fucking ground. So stow the selective purity tests that magically only apply to the wing of the party you don't like.

That doesn’t mean I want Cuomo to win, regardless of how his chances look or his actual viability. I’m not a centrist; I don’t want centrists for office; I’m thrilled the socialist won the primary; this is entirely besides the point of my original comment.

It sure looks like you've been arguing this whole time that voting third party is a-ok in this instance but not any of the previous ones.

So you have no clue what it's like to be in a country where one party is fascist and the only other viable party takes advantage of that to not represent you.

I’ve said multiple times I wanted Mamdani to win; I’ve also said multiple times that I’m, very much, not advocating for anyone to vote third party

Except the part where you keep saying that this is different because it's small and local.

They're still the wing of puma pac.

…you mean the material differences between two different scenarios?

The only one that actually matters is that Mamdani is a progressive and the sex pest you want is a centrist.

so this is literally you just insisting that, no, really the reasoning would be different if Mamdani ran as a third party and the Democratic party endorsed him. Then I’d say the reasoning was different and you should vote for the guy who won the primary.

Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying. Your entire "it's ok to vote for a third party" thing is only because Mamdani is a progressive. "No matter who" crumbles instantly when the centrist candidate loses the primary.

Petty revenge for not agreeing with trump's sharpie forecast.

That was the primaries. The general is FPTP.

So as always, it's anyone but a progressive.

Now watch the "vote blue no matter who" party make excuses for why it's ok to vote third party now that the democratic nominee is a progressive and not the sex pest they prefer.

Have fun blaming the people whose votes you didn't want for the loss you earned.

See, it's ok to vote 3rd party here. It's not because the nominee is a progressive, it's because of this paragraph of excuses.

It’s weird to be like, “His progressivism makes the difference,” as though I’m hoping the party backs Cuomo or Adams and would rapidly vote third party in this case.

It's honest. Voting 3rd party is literally voting for the worst candidate, in all cases unless there's a progressive as the party's nominee, in which case it doesn't matter.

I'm sick of the double standards and I don't buy the excuses for them.

The filibuster is only used to block things republicans and centrist democrats don't want to happen.

It has been used once since trump took office, to block nothing.

Disingenuous? You hate the DSA for reasons that apply to the DNC but I don't see you as angry at every democrat as you are any given member of the DSA.

You just hate progressives and found some copypasta that suits your selective dislike of things both the DSA and DNC do.

Sure. How much further to the right do you want them?

Do you get what I mean?

Yeah. It's conveniently different in this case because the nominee is a progressive.

Come on. The party fought harder to keep other, better candidates off the ballots harder than it fought for anything in the preceding years of the biden administration. They wanted biden, trump, and then no one else. In that order.

She knows damned well what they're doing and is lying, which is why she won't be sacked.

Yeah, he's not corporate enough. Let's kick him out. Why do we keep losing? Must be the progressives we keep insisting aren't welcome.

Not supporting a shitty a brainless, dictator simping, terrorist endorsing, violence condoning organization like the DSA

This also describes the DNC, with whom you have no evident problem.