Eldritch @ Eldritch @lemmy.world

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Okay, and? Where did I ever give the impression that I had any sort of respect or confidence in them to think that they could protect anyone, even themselves. Was it that confidence inspiring phrase of hoisting another turd of a campaign over the Finish Line just to block the fascist?

Yes, they and Republicans both helped to march us to this cliff. How does jumping off the cliff help us? How did it help anyone.

It's seriously not worth engaging with them as a party. We need to take power back from the national parties at local levels across the country. But their dead weight can still be useful. Even if it's just inertia to slow a slide into complete collapse.

I never said it was. Why would you even think that that's what I was implying? Acknowledging reality is not endorsing it.

During the presidential election we had the choice to either hold our ground or make things worse. Between the Democrats Optical and rhetorical failures. Plenty were also more concerned with virtue signaling to attack them. Rather than do what was achievable. Hoisting that turd over the Finish Line just to spite the fascist and keep them from Power.

Trust me as an anarchist I want to see every National level politician out of the job. And most in the state as well. It's got nothing to do with supporting them. Just acknowledging the reality of the situation.

It's always the ones you most suspect.

Yeah. Incumbents often run unopposed for their party. And sometimes even completely. Even good politicians should fend off primary challenges. It helps keep them focused on serving who the power belongs to lest it be taken from them.

As Will Rogers once stated

I'm not a member of an organized political party. I'm a Democrat.

And so we're republicans. The genocide in Palestine literally was not on the ballot. No matter who won it was going to continue.

The only thing that was on the ballot was whether we were going to bring the genocide home and make it worse or not. Spoiler.

Now not only are we not having the minimal to no pushback against Israel that we had before. We have Trump actively enabling Israel and pushing to go to war in Iran. The worst possible option. And the Democrats definitely did plenty to bring it on themselves. But a lot of people were manipulated into turning the genocide in Palestine into an attack issue specifically against democrats. So effectively. That a number of Palestinians voted for Trump thinking he would be better about Palestine.

Indeed. Though I'm not sure we could without finding some way to do this without shooting ourselves in the foot at every turn. No politician in any party incumbent or not should go without a primary challenge. But so many are hyper focused on Purity tests that don't accomplish anything.

I'm not defending the rot. I literally called you and them both out. But you've never been honest so why would you start now. We could do a lot more to take care of it if there was a democrat in office right now and we weren't having to struggle to keep Ukraine from being steamrolled and our allies betrayed domestic and foreign. All the families now being ripped apart. Simply because Biden was not good enough for you simply because Harris was not good enough for you. You and your useless Purity tests.

Oh and nice selective quoting of Martin Luther King Jr. there. Don't let yourself think that slipped by. But I'll tell you one thing. While King was correct to call that out. You know what he didn't do. He didn't stop trying to seek alliances where he could to change things when possible. Martin Luther King Jr didn't rely on Purity tests. Not like you. People are right to have a lot of regret. Things weren't perfect. But they were better. And hopefully they will learn from all this purity testing. But letting the perfect be the enemy of the achievable is always a bad position.

I've never told anyone to accept less from the democrats. In fact I regularly tell people to primary them everywhere and Republicans as well. The simple fact is when it comes to national elections like the presidency. It will either be a Republican or a Democrat that wins. And while neither one is good. One is certainly much much worse. As shameful as it was. Palestine wasn't on the ballot in the presidential election. But blatant fascism was. And while Democrats I think did the Lions share to hurt themselves. People with purity test like yours did no service either.

But you do you. Tell yourself what you need to to absolve yourself of any role in the problems we're now facing in america. Build as many straw men as you like. People see you. And they're not liking what they see.

I really enjoy that you have to put this in code now. Can't openly state it. And still get largely downvoted for it.

It's such a shitty, dishonest take. And people are finally waking up to it. Hindsight has always been 2020. And looking back I think plenty of people right now sorely wish we still had a Democrat in the oval office. Regardless of all the problems that we would still have. We wouldn't have a full-on autocrat on the March in our own country as well. And might actually be able to focus completely on what's going on over in Palestine instead of having to split our resources now on more fronts. Including local.

I'm not defending Or absolving democrats of their part in this. They're still not learning. Just like you're still not learning. And just as much as the Democrats are not an ally of the left or the people in general. Neither is someone like you who actively campaigned against our best interest. Helping to get the worst possible outcome elected. Simply because the other option was not perfect enough.

Justice is unfortunately slow. Due diligence and all definitely takes time. And if everyone were acting in good faith that wouldn't be a problem. I don't think the judges are going to drag their feet anymore here than they would anywhere else. Though I definitely think we should already be Beyond this.

It's a start. But why stop there.

Here are a couple of lawyers that have more or less implied that.

I still don't think that offers any hope or possible remedy.

That only means something if someone is going to enforce it. When someone has a monopoly on violence. How do you enforce that against the person with the Monopoly?

The legislature and the Judiciary have effectively bowed down to Emperor Trump. Giving up any power they may have had . While many of them may not particularly like him. They find him more useful to their own ends. And nothing is going to change until their perception changes. Maybe the coming war on Iran will do that. Maybe not. The echo chamber is pretty thick now. And I am sure the majority of people will only hear positive news about it.

Oh I don't disagree with your take on it on that front. What crypto is being used for and how it is being used is generally impractical. It does have legitimate uses. But as you said it's generally not the ones that's being used for.

Spicy take. Blockchain and crypto are tools and not inherently bad.

My biggest issue with them are who currently controls them and what they're being used for.

Its always rhapsody. Never AUX.

What are you even talking about lol. Wow your psychosis is bad.

If imperialism and colonialism is justifiable because we as outsiders find a practice abhorrent. Then you have just justified what the United States did to my family. Stealing their homes culture and religion. Would I have wanted to live as they did? Probably not. But we were never given the choice. Because it was stolen. This is what your advocating for. This is why you are rightfully called a hypocrite.

I get that you've never thought about it that far. That you aren't actually against anything bad that's happening. You are simply a Pro Vanguard campist unquestioningly. I'm sure you've never considered that someone could criticize one group's acts without defending anothers. That two things can be bad at the same time. And one bad thing does not justify another bad thing.

No I'm simply stating that changing one brainwashing for another is not helping. And the reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because you haven't asked any questions. You've been making a lot of false accusations.

Quote a single thing I said that was pro religious. You love to build strawmen. But have nothing of actual value to say. Typical leninist.

I qualify as a communist, why would I be pushing anti-communist propaganda. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of leninism. You're not a communist.