DreamlandLividity @ DreamlandLividity @lemmy.world

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Maybe look up definition of wage theft first. The one most people use.

In addition:

Billionaires cannot possibly create added value to account for their wealth, just as you or I cannot become billionaires at the sweat of our brow.

1. Value and create in this context is mostly subjective.
2. Ever since internet and software became a thing, they can. It is absolutely possible for one person to create sw worth billions.

people become billionaires through wage theft.

Quite the assumption assertion. Can I also just assume assert bad things you did with no evidence? PS: I mean that he specifically became billionaires through wage theft. I am sure many others did.

Plus, the starving are unemployed because the unemployment rate is artificially controlled economically in order to pressure the working class into accepting bad work conditions.

Which, even if it was true, he would be unable to change, just as the two of us are.

What makes you think the workers downstream from him are not among the starving and homeless?

Because RoyaltyInTraining made that statement without referring to any additional information? So I obviously assume that he made his statement based on the information in the post.

Besides, even if they were, would donating the money be less effective than paying them in wages? Charitable donations are tax exempt, wages are not. Also, you assume he was in a position where he could do anything about the worker wages, which seems unlikely given how most companies work (wiki says he was not a full owner, just co-founder).

You're a guy who thinks not being rich makes you morally superior to a man who anonymously donated over 99.9% of his wealth to charity, likely helping millions of people. 🤣

Uuu, copium is strong here 🤣

If your goal was to end homelessness and other societal woes, you would not say that a billionaire working to do the exact same thing using different means is not good. That is why I wrote you exposed your true motivations ;)

Your real thoughts are leaking there. "No, don't give the money to the starving and homeless that need it most! You are supposed to give it to us!"

As I understand it, the .su was not really an intentional exception as much as it happened before the strict rules were written down.

Ok, cool. How should Steam prevent it?

Edit: Or more relevantly, how is having unmoderated usually unseen public spaces worse for this than having unmoderated private spaces? Is the issue only that steam does not hide what is happening unlike other websites?

Sorry, do I need to handhold you through it? Are you unable to figure out what the definition of blackmail is? "If you don't bring an umbrella, you will get wet since it is supposed to rain." is not blackmail. Unless you are 10, I am very concerned that you can't comprehend this.

Wait, so your point is that we don't need to moderate DMs (and by proxy other spaces that users don't see), just make them feel unwelcome in the public ones.

And earlier in the thread, when I ask where the extremist content is, I and Schadrach agreed it is mostly places people don't see. Which you didn't object to.

So isn't it job well done, Steam is as is should be? Or what is the issue here?

So, any platform that offers unmoderated DMs should be banned? Or how exactly do you want to solve extremists reaching out in private?

So unless you go looking at the user profile pages of white supremacists, or go searching for white supremacist user groups you won't run into much of it.

Yeah, that is my point. How can people be radicalized by something they don't see?

Also, as non American, I find it mental that pepe memes are considered hate symbols now.

Care to provide a link? I just skimmed Helldivers 2 discussions a bit and found nothing extremist.

Edit: The worst I found so far is this, which is pretty dumb but not really at the level of "dangerous", or where it obviously needed to be removed.

As I said, I have never seen anything I would consider extremist myself. Though from your reply, I get the feeling the issue could be an unreasonably broad definition of extremist content on your side. That or I just happen to not visit games with such discussions.

I am a big GOG enjoyer myself, but when I need to use steam for anything, I have never encountered such content. Perhaps there is such content in private or otherwise not very visible spaces (such as user profiles), where they will not get reported, but that is true for any site with user content. I call BS on this being an issue.

What I am describing is not blackmail. It is the same as saying that leaving unguarded food next to starving people encourages theft of said food. That is not blackmail. I am saying anything beyond that. I am not commenting on morality of the situation or what the right thing to do is. Just pointing out a fact.

Thanks for the extra info.

That makes sense, thanks for the info.