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Maybe not quite what OP was imagining, but I was less focused on the extraction itself and more the destination: a network of safe, private residences you could flee to, then stay at until you've found a job and are ready to move into normal housing. Even better if they have psychological professionals on hand to help you deal with your trauma-- or hell, even staffers who'll help you get in touch with psychological professionals and other resources to help you get back on your feet would be a big plus.

As for the "extraction" itself, yeah, just going in guns blazing wouldn't work. It'd probably have to vary from client to client. Could be something as simple as venmoing you money for an uber. Or maybe you could work together with the staffers on some kind of skullduggery scheme-- like you say you're going out "grocery shopping", then there's a car waiting for you in the grocery store parking lot to take you to the shelters.

Honestly, even just having a friendly voice on the other side of the phone helping you figure out a plan to get out would be a huge help.

Yeah, and in today's America right wing conservatism is almost entirely concentrated in the GOP. Not really sure what the history of the party flip (which happened over half a century the better part of a century ago) has to do with anything in the screenshot?

EDIT: Thanks u/fkn for the correction!

Absolutely. And safe, private apartments the people being evacced can stay at for a few weeks / months while they look for work. Not "shelters" that are usually anything but (assuming you can even ones with space available for you in your area).

988 is a phenomenal, life-saving service, but unfortunately they don't help you get in touch with services to get out of dangerous situations.

There is the National Domestic Violence hotline, but they're A) run by a private organization, and B) literally hang up on you unless you're experienceing "intimate partner violence"-- because apparently all other forms of domestic violence don't count!!!

This is one of the reasons abusers pressure you to quit your job-- so even if you were finanically stable before, you end up becoming financially dependant on them so you can't just leave. It also makes it nigh-impossible for kids, even kids of wealthy families, to escape abusive situations before they're old enough to get a job (and you can bet their parents will run interference to keep that from happening as long as possible, or else figure out a way to coerce them into giving them their paychecks.)

Police don't help you get out of your home. The best case scenario is they arrest your abuser, who'll be back home the next morning (and hopefully won't retaliate too severely against you for humiliating them). Then, weeks to months later you have a court date-- by which time, your abuser's likely threatened you into saying whatever it takes to get them off the hook, and the judge is more than happy to play along so they can get you out the door and move onto other, "more important" cases.

And again, that's the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is your abuser convinces them you were actually the assaulter, and you're the one going to jail instead! Actually, I lied, that's the second-to-worst case scenario. Worst case scenario is the police do nothing, and leave you alone to deal with your abuser's rage at almost getting them caught. Or, you know, they just charge in guns fucking blazing because your skin's the wrong color.

By the time things have escalated to the point the abuse victim is desperate to escape, they've spent years trying to fix things at home. Remember, most victims start off having loved their abuser once. It's only after you're met with failure after failure after failure that it finally starts to sink in your abuser doesn't want to change, because they like having power over you.

The only safe option at that point is to GTFO before things escalate even further.

For the same reason fascists constantly accuse of "virtue signalling." Dickheads like this have convinced us everyone is secretly as much of an amoral, power-hungry narcissist as them. So when we talk about caring about other people, they assume we must be lying for some kind of political benefit-- because there's absolutely no way we actually care about other people, nobody does that, right?

(This is also how they sleep at night, by the way: sure, they're bad, but everyone else is just as bad as them if not worse, so who cares.)

So yeah, a dickhead like Putin is going to assume every other country must secretly be just as revanchist as his Russia.

Also the fact that the most recent Republican president, spent pretty much his entire term trying to serve Ukraine to Russia on a silver platter.

And Republicans reacted to this betrayal by... making him the frontrunner for the GOP nomination in 2024.

Yep, the Republican base has proven they'll vote for literally anyone with an (R) next to their name no matter how many felonies they commit. And because they're fanatics, they turn out to vote every time, no matter what.

The only way we get out of this nightmare is to hold the line, keep voting every cycle to keep the mainiacs out of power until the party inevitably implodes due to demographic shifts. Hopefully it'll happen soon, worrying about this shit is exhausting. But until then, we can't afford to be complacent.

Nah, it's what happens when you read them as instruction manuals.

The fact that the guy you replied to totally ignored all my points about, ya know, the ongoing genocide is fucking telling.

Friendly reminder Russia is committing atrocities in the occupied territories. So any kind of negotiated "peace" that involves Ukraine giving up territory means them consigning all their citizens living there to torture, random executions, wanton sexual violence, having their children taken away, and worse!

That's what you're calling for when you advocate a "negotiated settlement".

Sorry, I'm so used to hanging out in left-of-center places I make the mistake of assuming everyone understands how BS the whole "personal responsibilty" shtick is and is onboard with strict regulations to fight climate change. So I tend not to explicitly call it out in my posts, assuming it goes unsaid. Which might be a bad assumption to make in more centrist / non-explicitly-liberal spaces.

Will try to be clearer in the future :)

And every Saturday morning, all the clothes vanish from my hamper and re-appear clean and hung up in my closet / folded in my drawers!

I'm sorry if I came off as confrontational or insulting, that couldn't have been further from my intentions. Absolutely did not mean to start any kind of drama / flame war, just sharing my opinion in what I thought was a friendly way. Hope you're having a lovely day, wherever in the world you may be! :)

Yes. I said so explicitly in my previous comment.

Do you mean what you say or do you do it to be contrarian?

I fucking mean it. I've risked my life to stand up to abusers before. And Vladdy boy is the biggest abuser of them all. So fuck him and his rinky-dink nukes, nuclear annihilation is a preferable alternative to fascism spreading unopposed.

You should know that this lemmy community is hosted on lemmy.ml, an instance founded by tankies after they got banned from reddit and still moderated by them.

Yes. Do you think it's worth leaving 44 million people to be conquered by a fascist, genocidal regime because you're scared some limp-dick dictator might follow through on his threats that have proven to be empty over and over again?