Was it from a bot or Lemmy itself? If it was from a bot it doesn't really count since admins set that feature up themselves, it's not a part of Lemmy itself.
I don't really think ICANN should be based anywhere or really have any say, or I guess even exist at all. I'm a strong believer in a decentralized DNS system not controlled or designated by a single, all powerful entity. With how important it is and how much breaks if it gets compromised either by outside forces, or by internal corruption, it makes sense that something like this shouldn't be so centralized and vulnerable.
If the .us TLD vanished, as in, if America ceased to be. I imagine com, net, org, and domains of the like would also be seriously affected since their maintainers as well as the organization with all control over all domains and the root servers would also be affected by such change. The internet could adapt for sure even in the worst case scenario, but with how centralized DNS is it would cause more than a few shakeups. Probably would make this incident look like a drop in the bucket.
I disagree, you speak like the united states owns the internet. No one owns the internet. That also means no one actually has to follow IANA's rules, why should they wall themselves off and build out their own air-gapped infrastructure just to circumvent problems imposed by IANA if IANA and the USA don't actually "own" the internet. You can't take the internet because no one owns the internet, get this shitty idea out of your head, internet doesn't belong to anyone, it's all of ours. That also means people, organizations, and countries (especially countries) are free to use alternate DNS systems with either partially or fully forked DNS Root servers.
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If you want to control it you should build your own
Besides the self-hosted DNS servers for Pretendo, AltWFC, and a few GameSpy games (which I also host the servers for) I have no intention of actually doing this, but I am pointing out that no one has to, nor should they, go all out like you suggest if they wanted to do this. They do not need to build out separate internet like you suggest to control their own Domain name system.
If that's what they mean by cybercrime they're bigger bootlickers than I originally thought. Like it's one thing to not want to support piracy, it's a whole nother thing to outright say the quiet part out loud. Which, yeah that's what they just did if that's what they really meant.
It's already bad enough that they supposedly want domains to be aggressively policed, I mean like I said in my other comment, serious "no swearing allowed on the internet vibes" going on from how they wrote that part...
Agreed, these systems are far too important to remain as centralized and vulnerable as they are currently. It is in governments' best interests but not our own that they remain this way. Hopefully in the future things do change, I imagine the biggest push away from centralized DNS and centralized PKI will be from the fallout of shit like this breaking stuff and losing money.
I know this is a late reply but Lemmy recently gained support for wordpress blogs as communities so this will likely be positive for us here as well. Though it would be good if we had profile following and discovery similar to mbin and kbin in the future.
Something that nobody mentions when they talk about dead internet theory that I think should be talked about is that the worthless engagement trolls that are real people, really do not and should not count as real people. They're never going to give you worthwhile responses, they don't add anything to conversations. Unless they see an opportunity to pick a fight they're probably not even listening to you.
Therefore they're not really any different than an AI run account that's not going to acknowledge you. And in some ways they are much worse, despite being technically "real people".
If they haven't figured it out by now they probably never will. After all fake engagement isn't a new thing, not by a long shot. They'll probably just make some excuse about banner blindness for why click-through rates are down, possibly trying to also justify more aggressive ads, and more spending.
It's really weird that somebody wants more policing at the top level of domains? Like seriously this is giving off the "There should be no swearing allowed on the internet" vibes.
So it's basically because of laziness or lack of effort that no one wants anything better, or even just different. And that means ICANN/IANA can just casually break countless internet domains and cause a decade of internet bitrot at the drop of a hat and no one will challenge them over it.
Who says they need to go that far? One can build alternate DNS systems without self-isolating, in fact they should. Air-gapping like you suggest is extra work and not necessary to implement new domain registration control and DNS root servers. Also it kind of defeats the point because it isn't a stand against IANA it's saying build your own internet, not take back the one we already have.
Was, it's no longer in existence currently. Many of them moved to Nostr, though some of their members came back to Lemmy and set up the hilariouschaos Lemmy instance.
Anyone else potentially see a problem in which a single organization oversees all name usage and can arbitrarily decide to break a good majority of the internet over stupid shit like this? Or are we all just fine with a single American based entity being able to decide what domains are valid and not?
That's not even addressing the issue of rogue planets which were ejected from their star system. Many estimates say they outnumber the stars. Obviously when a planet is ejected it doesn't just disintegrate but by that poor definition it's no longer a ""planet"", so it's clearly a problematic definition.
Planet used to mean wandering star, referring to 'stars' that didn't stay in one place but moved around with the days, months, years, or centuries. Obviously not a useful definition these days, I consider a planet a rocky body big enough that it's gravity makes it almost perfectly round.
I imagine that many will flock to right-wing friendly instances that end up widely defederated. Most of them though will go back to 4chan and other similar sites.
Was it from a bot or Lemmy itself? If it was from a bot it doesn't really count since admins set that feature up themselves, it's not a part of Lemmy itself.