DouchePalooza @ DouchePalooza @lemmy.world

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But they offer no proper solutions despite the same drivel of the last decades that led to October 7.

I actually believed what the media said about the Israeli-Palestine war with the colonizations and all that, but upon reading about Israel and gaza strip history and the current developments I'm all for Israel now.

I know I won't change any minds here. What's born crooked and all...

Finally. This circlejerk is tiresome

Gaza was given billions in aid. They could've built a decent economy but it was all wasted in an archaic tunnel network, weapons and a pointless war with Israel.

That's rich from someone that seems to only read hamas propaganda. What about the misfired hamas mortar that landed in a hospital parking lot but hamas said was from Israel and killed 500 people? Turns out it actually killed like 5 people or something. That was propaganda from who?

You can't freely enter any European border country, no. Those that belong to Schengen can freely travel but they don't seem to want to anihalate and rape their neighbors - it seems to really help.

There is no functioning economy in a rich land with 2 million people while Israel made an advanced country out of desert?

Perhaps the problem is the people.

All I care is Israel grew to one of the most advanced economies on earth from desert while gaza is as good as any other Muslim shithole with no oil.

Exactly. Like I said, Israel completely withdrew from Gaza in 2005 and gave the Palestinians the opportunity to govern themselves from there on.

What did they do? Elected hamas, the party that promised to kill all Jews. Oh so much peace...

Shot anyone trying to leave but plenty of Palestinians worked in Israel... Does not compute. Even if that were true, when your neighbouring country indoctrinates it's citizens to destroy the jews from an early age, you can't really trust any civilian.

Open air prison - then every country is an open air prison if you can't freely leave to neighbouring countries - It's called borders.

Dropped bombs? You might be confusing Israel with Gaza. Israel is the one that had to install an "iron dome" missile defense system due to random bombing from Gaza.

The brainwashing is strong here.

Israel tried that - Gaza was left to the Palestinians.

You could complain about colonies in the West bank but not in gaza. No Israelis colonies were made there but hamas still wants to completely eradicate Jews from the neighbouring land.

No, just informed myself of the history regarding the territories in question instead blindly listening to what hamas says regarding the HUGE death toll. We've been listening to hospitals running out of fuel since the first week of the gaza siege. They were still running months after.

Tell me then what would be the solution to this problem when your neighbour wants to annihilate you? Israel completely left gaza in 2005, left infrastructure, gave them electricity and water for free. Palestinians could work in Israel and come back to gaza.

What did Israel get in return? A indiscriminate unprovoked massacre of civilians.

Israel is a beacon of civilization from a desert wasteland, gaza hardly evolved from thriving terrain. Who am I going to root for?

A cow also produces a lot of methane, a much worse greenhouse gas.

Besides, the problem isn't the grass from cows grazing, it's the rainforests that go down all around the world to convert to farmland to produce animal feed.

It's much more efficient to use that farmland to feed humans than to feed cows and then feed humans (1kg of meat needs 25kg of feed)

Disclaimer - I'm not vegan but I try to reduce my meat consumption overall, especially red meats.