Donald J. Musk @ DonaldJMusk @lemmy.today

**"Máax ba’ate’el, jach yáanal."**

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Again, you have no proof that we won't be able to vote next election. Because there is no proof that says that.

Show me the laws or the constitutional amendment.

There is no law or constitutional amendment that says we won't be able to vote in next election. And you have no proof that we won't be able to vote in next election.

I think we will be able to vote in the election just fine.

That's not the discussion. You said we wouldn't be able to vote in the next election. I asked for proof. You provided none, because there is no proof of that.

It’s easy when Elon messed with the voting machines, as well as racially targeted voters registration lists being purged, and gerrymandering districts.

LMAO

Cause he said it. That is known as a “fact”.

I'm not talking about someone saying something. I'm saying there is no proof that we won't be able to vote next election. You have still not shown any proof.

Let's save this conversation. then when voting time comes, will you apologize if you're allowed to vote? Or is it gonna be a "well we can vote because we made sure we stopped him from changing things" sorta thing? lol

Wanna bet some bitcoin on us being able to vote next election? I'm willing to bet. Are you?

No shit we hate the felon con man.

Obviously. Guess you all shoulda came up with a better candidate so that he wouldn't have one a second time.

Again not an issue for you until it happens?

I didn't say it wasn't an issue. You stated it as fact, and I said it wasn't a fact. Because it's not.

I shared him saying it. And here is more for you.

Still no proof that we won't be able to vote in the next election. Do you any proof of constitutional changes or laws that say that we won't be able to vote again in the next election?

If not, then say you "think" we won't be able to vote again. Because it's your "opinion," not fact. Right now there are no laws that say we won't be able to vote in the next election.

First term vs running for 2nd. Not the same.

Nah, you all hated him then too. That's why so much crying when you all lost to him a second time.

Do you know what plans are? You can’t seriously not see the issue with this.

Again show me proof that we won't be able to vote again. Someone saying something, or thinking about something, or laughing about something isn't proof that it's going to happen.

Show me proof that there is a law or constitutional change that says we won't be able to vote again. Or even a news article that says we won't be able to vote again.

Sure thing. Why was he surrounded by guards for a clear photo op hahaha.

Maybe read all of the "I wish the shooter would have been a better shot" comments on Lemmy. Maybe that will tell you why.

He literally said it.

He says a lot of shit. Doesn't make it law or truth. So where is the proof that we won't be able to vote again? Any changes made to the constitution? How come every single newspaper in the world isn't reporting on the fact that we won't be able to vote again?

Your argument relies on selective incidents and misinterpretations, lacking the comprehensive evidence needed to label Trump a fascist dictator.

The claim that Trump used police to clear protesters for a photo op at St. John's Church has been scrutinized. A U.S. watchdog found that the decision to clear the area was made to install fencing, not for the photo opportunity.

How do you interpret that you won’t need to vote again? ​ Please show me proof that we won't be able to vote again.

Or the home grows are next,

Drugs suck. Including weed lol

Wanting something and doing it are not the same. Trump did not deport anyone for criticizing him, and the First Amendment is still fully in place.

If he were truly a fascist dictator, he would have dissolved Congress, taken control of the courts, and jailed opposition leaders. Which never happened.

Labeling someone a fascist just because you interpret their rhetoric in the worst possible light is not logic, it’s bias disguised as argument.

That’s a lazy guilt-by-association fallacy. Supporting a politician doesn't mean endorsing every extreme label slapped on them. If Trump were a fascist dictator, he wouldn’t have lost an election, left office, or faced multiple legal challenges from independent courts.

Fascism also requires suppression of free speech, yet his critics dominate every major media and social platform including this one, Lemmy.

Just because you dislike someone doesn’t make them a fascist. That’s emotion, not logic.

Nah, this isn't about me. I prefer to stay private about stuff like that. Thanks for trying, tho!

No one said I was being forced.

I haven't seen any.

In my country,

So you are arguing with me about US politics, and you aren't even in the US?! There's more to us that you see in the news.

This conversation is over. You don't even live here, bro! lol

Well, there are just things that are worse than death, aren’t there?

Lately, it's reading Lemmy comments. The ultimate punishment.

And there it is, that's exactly what I meant. You’re proving my point. You’ve taken politics so personally that you’ve elevated it to “life and death” status in a country where, by law, no politician has the power to arbitrarily sentence people to death.

If you're in the U.S., "politics" doesn’t decide whether you live or die—laws, courts, and due process do. We’re not in a dictatorship (regardless of what Lemmy says) where a party can declare entire groups of people to die based on politics.

So unless you're saying elected officials are legally executing people outside the justice system, the “life and death” framing is emotional exaggeration, not fact.

Maybe someone feels like politics is life and death to them, but feelings aren’t proof of reality. And reacting to politics with that level of personal emotional investment tends to just polarize people more and cloud their ability to think critically.

That’s what I meant when I said people take it too seriously--and more pointedly, I was referring to Lemmy posters taking it too seriously.

I've seem post reacting to totally non-political information with politically-charged responses and accusation. Even if the topic didn't start out political at all.

Fair point! Fun is def not the correct word I should have used. "Practical" is the better choice.

I purposely avoid using my phone to browse. Unless it's something like restaurant review or urgent news as I'm out. I try to stay present, enjoy my space, and tell myself that I can just wait to look it up when I get home.

When I 'm out and look around I see everyone just staring down at their screen. It's annoying to see. So I decided not to be like that. Now I actually hear birds, feel breezes, take in sights and smells. And I take my time. For me pesonally, 100 percent improvement of life. I'm rarely ever in a bad mood now.

People even mention how I always seem in a good mood. It's because I'm not doomscrolling on my phone all day (like most of Lemmy does)! lol

And when I get home and use desktop, I do fun things like create music, write novels, etc. Life is awesome without the 24-hour doom and gloom.

Not sure about that. I see a LOT of lemmy posters who seem to never have had a girlfriend or are too scared to talk to girls in real life. lol

I finally decided .world could fuck off

Wise choice!