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  • Ahh, ok. But again, I'd say there are other posters who post almost as much and don't catch the flack that he does.

    Not that I am arguing with you, since I think you and I both agree there should be no limit.

    I feel that since the vast majority of comments that Monk made were replying and answering comments he was receiving, it's just community engagement and not detrimental to the community.

    I also don't even see 9 posts a day as a big thing. That's like one post an hour for an average day. I read WAY more posts than that online during a day.

    It's a feed the troll thing. I see everyone talking about how he was such a troll, but look how few people actually blocked him, and would engage him.

    And he's still around, and I only commented two his posts a couple of times, so I really don't care. But I just see his name come up all the time, and I never see anything that he did that was nearly as horrible as people imply.

    I see MUCH worse in c/politics now than I did back then. I see outright nazi comments, calls to violence, etc.

    UM never did any of that. As far as I can tell, everyone was pissed because he refused to back off saying he was going to vote third party--which now isn't nearly as terrible to say as it was then. But I realize that's veering off-topic for this discussion.

  • Fair enough. But how many of those were posts vs comments?

    And if the comments were him replying to people conversing with him, does that count? Because I see a lot of people mad that people post WITHOUT engaging in the comments under the post.

    So which is it? Should people reply to people commenting on their posts or no? Because I'm looking at Universal Monks post history on world, and the vast majority were him just replying to people that commented on his replies and his posts. In other words, he was answering people asking him stuff and saying stuff about him.

    If no one would have replied to his posts, then his comment history wouldn't be so large. And since they weren't ignoring/blocking him, they they were engaging in conversation with him. So does that count as spam or trolling?

    I'd argue that he INCREASED community engagement.

    I just posted the numbers of philipthebucket. Should he be banned? Is he a spammer troll based on the number of comments and posts? over 2,000 comments in 7 months is a shit ton of commenting. I'm not saying he should be, but he would be severely limited under a limited post rule as well.

  • Let's talk about stats.

    You make, on average over the last 7 months: 13 comments per day.

    And you post, on average over the last 7 months: 6 posts per day.

    More the Universal Monk. So about trolls/spamming, what do you have to say about your own numbers?

  • But if you don't know who his alts are, how can you say that?

  • But they're not caged off. They are posting all over. And if they have all the alts many believe they do, then they are even on instances that "banned" them. lol

  • But most of those were him actually replying to comments he received first. So I don't think that counts.

    Also, please give us a count of your daily posts and comments, because I see you way more than I ever saw him.

  • Ahhh, ok. Sure. Well, I'm sure they laugh about it a lot since they are mentioned a lot. If they are the troll you all say they are, then you all seem to be feeding them a lot.

  • I don't know. I didn't look that deeply into it. I just see that you guys talk about him a lot.

  • Meh, guesstimating. I don't know the actual amount. I did a quick search and it was just a fucking page full of his name on different instances. I didn't really care enought to do an actual count. Do you know the actual count?

  • Fair enough.

    by their refusal to actually engage with the content they post when asked about it

    But there is no rule that says people have to engage with the content the post about. In face, the vast majority of posters I see don't engage much about their posts. Some people like to post shit, then do other things. Not everyone is down for some discussion.

  • Looks like he's on almost 30 instances though. And new ones being made every day. He appears just as busy as ever.

  • Well it seemed to me that you were explaining why he was a bad poster. I never said you said those things, I'm just saying that those things didn't have an affect on him.

    I mean, I suppose that was the reason he got banned, right? So people wouldn't have to see his stuff. But there are probably more people now than ever because he just spread out.

    If he would have just stayed here, people block him, never see anyting. Banning him seemed to have made him spread out everywhere.

  • "Most" instances didn't though. Not only that, it takes a few seconds to create an alt username. So he/she probably didn't stop posting in here at all.