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Here is a direct link to the most recent survey for what it’s worth. I personally would be careful about reading too much into the numbers though.

Public Opinion Poll No (92)

26 May-1 June 2024

Reuters – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Least Biased


Factual Reporting: Very High


Country: United Kingdom


MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: Mostly Free


Media Type: News Agency


Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic


MBFC Credibility Rating: High Credibility

MediaBiasFactCheck.com: About + Methodology

Ad Fontes Media Rating: Middle / Reliable

By: Borja Suarez

Archive Link: June 12, 2024 7:05 PM UTC

nothing buy western media

TIL Reuters (United Kingdom), the Associated Press (United States), and Deutsche Welle (Germany) aren’t western media.

Fair point.

Do all of us think that though? There seems to be a diversity of thought about Hamas on Lemmy.

https://lemm.ee/comment/12467980

and is ready to negotiate over the details

I feel like this should have been the headline. Hopefully it turns into something real.

The person I replied to wrote:

However we do not get these kind of accounts for the tens of thousands of Palestinians murdered by Israel.

I have listened to, read, and seen dozens if not hundreds of Palestinian stories going into great detail about their lives and suffering. The narrative that the media, and in particular Reuters, doesn’t cover Palestinian stories because they are unworthy victims is patently false. These articles are quick examples of this and I posted them to challenge the perception of some users on Lemmy (Lemmings?).

Reuters is not propaganda, that is abundantly clear.

Not exactly?

I just want to remind people that there were protests against Hamas in Gaza that were going on in August 2023.

Gaza Protests Struggle to Gain Traction as Police Crack Down

Edit:

See Public Opinion Poll No (91) from April 15th 2024 For a more recent update.

Not sure about the accuracy of the polling given the current climate, but wanted to share a primary source regardless

if you have to kill thousands of children based on the claim that you're protecting your nation

My point is that this was something the Allied powers did as well, and they were the only thing that stopped the Axis powers. The scale and intent could be argued, but even though military conflicts are extremely horrific, I don’t always see a viable alternative.

To be clear, I’m also not saying that the specifics of the Israel-Palestine conflict are the same as WWII.

Ah, mostly that the Allied forces were fighting to protect their own nations, not just against the Axis powers. In doing so, they also caused death and destruction to innocents.

I mean, the Allied powers also firebombed civilian population centers, which was absolutely horrific.

Edit to add sources:

Hamburg -37,000 civilians

Dresden ~25,000 civilians

Tokyo ~100,000 civilians

On one hand I can sympathize with that sentiment, on the other hand, I can’t imagine the horrors that would have occurred if the Axis powers had been allowed to conquer the world.

Going along with this thought…

Does the setting matter?

Like if I allow or invite one terrorist to live with me, is that the same as regularly attending a governmental meeting with one?

if you have to kill thousands of children in the name of protecting your nation, maybe your nation isn't worth protecting.

Ironically, nearly every major nation in existence has done this at some point in their history. The world is a fucked up place.

I mean, the Gaza Health Ministry already fails to distinguish between combatants and non-combatants when reporting casualties, so does it really matter what Hamas’ political or military branches claim?

It’s all relative. Want to see something from a further right Israeli source?

Israel Hayom:

Report: Former hostage Noa Argamani held captive in Al-Jazeera cameraman's house

Their ratings from MBFC:

Israel Hayom – Bias and Credibility

Bias Rating: Right

Factual Reporting: Mixed

Country: Israel

MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: Moderate

Media Type: Newspaper

Traffic/Popularity: Medium Traffic

MBFC Credibility Rating: Medium Credibility

Fox News has a mixed score for factual reporting…

But a “Low Credibility Rating”