DogMuffins @ DogMuffins @discuss.tchncs.de

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Please attach some basic conditions like... don't do war crimes.

I mean you're right of course, buy even if they'd doubled the number... would 2500 deaths be ok?

It's like you're intentionally ignoring what I'm saying. Of course they're not innocent. Yes they should be held accountable.

If you think killing 5,000 civilians is an appropriate response then I don't know what to say to you.

I completely agree. Everyone wants a nice simple goodie vs baddie dynamic but that's just not how it is.

Innocent people are being killed. I am pro-non-combatants-not-dying.

Frankly it's bizarre that western countries are so supportive of Israel. Yes Israel needs to defend itself but I don't think that requires the deaths of 5,000 mostly innocent Palestinians.

Grinding Giza to the dust is not what’s being done.

Hyperbole on my part, but not excessive given the post we're discussing this under.

Hamas contribute more by firing uncontrollable missiles that also tend to fall in Gaza.

Patently false. I'll refer you again to the pictures in this article.

But you are implying a reality where every single sane person should ignore the existence and terrorism of hamas and Palestinians.

This is the false dichotomy I referred to in my last comment. Perhaps you should look it up. We can acknowledge the existence of terrorism and respond appropriately without causing a humanitarian crisis.

This is classic American "fucked around and found out" diplomacy. Like a child with a hammer.

In support of Israel while they cause a humanitarian crisis.

Sure. I actually don't know that much about Australia's colonisation other than what we were taught in school, which I can assure you doesn't focus on the genocide part.

I've always found the "terra nullius" aspect of international law to be fascinating. James Cook is generally credited with Australia's discovery, but the West Coast had been visited many times by the dutch, and my favorite description of Cook is that he was "just the guy that steered the boat for Joseph Banks". Although they declared that there were no permanent settlements of any note, in the most recent decades this has been found to be false, in courts of law, many times over.

Out of curiosity, can I ask what it was that made mastodon click?

I had two or three goes before realising that choosing the right instance can give you an engaging "local" feed. That seems dramatically less important on lemmy though.

No. I didn't say nor imply that I could. I'm not saying they're both as bad as each other. I'm saying that a humanitarian crisis is unfolding, and western nations are standing in support.

Do you not agree that a country should react to acts of terrorism?

You're implying a false dichotomy, as though in response to a terrorist attack you either lie down and accept further attacks, or grind gaza into the dust.

Those stats aren't from war-time - this isn't a spears vs guns situation. Sorry maye you're welcome to criticise me all you like for Australia's treatment of first nations people but your aboriginal metaphor is not analogous to the gaza conflict and isn't helping illustrate your point.

The core of our disagreement is the level of force used in response.

Forgive me, but I've come to expect a "fucked around and found out" mode of diplomacy from the US. As in, hamas threw the first punch so theres a moral imperative to grind gaza into the dust.

I don't see it that way. A few weeks ago there was a stale mate. Israel has adequate defences. Securing Israel with minimal loss of life ought to be the priority.

I'm happy to disagree in this regard, neither of us are going to change our positions.

Israel is creating a humanitarian crisis. If you're getting the perception of moral high ground I don't really know what to say to you.

I've done some reading and listening since I asked this question and I think that this is the correct answer.

They're the only non-muslim country in the middle-east, and therefore our closest ideological partner, and therefore our best strategic partner.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. Yes colonists did some very bad things in Australia 200 years ago. Should we not strove to hold ourselves to a higher standard?

"Yes Israel is creating a humanitarian crisis, but we it's fine to support their endeavours because we did some very bad things 200 years ago".

It would be a real luxury to have that clear mindset, but I don't think that's possible.

Lemmy is something like a teenager. It needs time for its own identity and culture to coalesce. For now I think the best we can do is to avoid the notion that we're alt-reddit.

You've missed my point.

I'm simply saying that migrating reddit users en-masse is the wrong objective. Just make lemmy awesome and allow users to come organically.

I couldn't care less what happens to reddit. Let them hang around and soak up all the idiots.

Flawed premise.

Lemmy is not reddit nor should it aspire to be.

We don't want to attract reddit users, we simply want vibrant communities.

This type of attitude results in turds that won't flush like lemmit.online et al - a blight upon our fertile landscape.

I'm a registered tax agent. This isn't really true - but, it's exactly what someone needing a 2-ton codpiece would say.

If you use a passenger vehicle exclusively for work / business, then you can claim depreciation on it's total cost up to a maximum of ~$66k (last year... this limit is indexed each year).

Vehicles with a carrying capacity of > 1 tonne are not subject to this limit as they're "commercial" vehicles rather than passenger vehicles.

So if you had a $100k to spend on a new car, then a landcruiser wagon / SUV will be less tax effective than a RAM ute because you can't claim a deduction for the entire cost of the ute.

That said, no one actually chooses between those types of vehicles on the basis of the tax deduction available - you either want a ute or you don't. The choice is always between a hilux size ute and a ram size ute. Additionally, I don't have a list but I've heard tell that very few of the bigger utes actually have a carrying capacity of > 1 tonne once you subtract the potential weight of passengers.

Ok, well it doesn't address the question, at all.

I shit you not... I saw a cooker waving a Trump 2020 flag last week.