DicJacobus @ DicJacobus @lemmy.world

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Trolling and Joking about sovereignty became as funny as a heart attack after Feb 2022. Now when you do it, people are liable to give you Murder Eyes. for good reason. Sovereignty is non negotiable, Sovereignty, you kill to keep.

It's quite simple. Resource extraction, and coloring more of the map in his country's color.

Russia's reasons for invading Ukraine mostly boil down to the same, although their country is so fucked, they actually need to forcefully graft 40 million people onto their population against their will, just so Russia can survive another generation, Russia is a doomed country demographically, America isn't, America is doing it just because. That's Ultranationalism and Fascism for you. Making enemies to distract yourself from internal strife

90% of the coutnry would be reorganized into "territories" with no representation, be given the Nestle/American Fruit Company treatment, turned into resource extraction zones ruled by Quisling Governors, and a few select urban areas might be granted something akin to early statehood, but it wouldnt get full rights for decades, after the population has been sufficiently assimilated and dissidents are killed.

, they can dress it up any way they want, but any scenario where two countries join and there is signifigant opposition and discontent within the population. it always ends up with death camps. See Russia's "Filtration camps" in Ukraine.

Make no mistake, America taking over Canada in any way, is something to kill over. because they're certainly gonna kill you or someone you love.

actual conservatives aren't, the problem is moderate conservatism has been taken over to use as a vehicle to normalize ultranationalism and fascism.

In that scenario, the CIA controlled Quisling CSIS says hello

Conventionally Canada wouldn't last more than a week. Unconventionally, the insurgency and resistance would tear America to peices. for the same reason Russia's plan for Ukraine was braindead and unfeasible.

When the cultures and appearance of two peoples who are each others neighbors are virtually indistinguishable, the resistance will tear the occupying apart from within. Ukraine has the benefit of having Europe on its border to flood them with Arms, Canada wouldn't have that luxury, the Government would surrender quite quickly, and be replaced with a Quisling government, However resistance against the occupation, the Americans wouldn't know what to do as they'd spend just as much time accidentally hunting their own people, (and lets be real, if something like this happened, America would de-facto already be in a state of civil war as large population centers revolt against a Fascist autocracy that's attacking its own people and America's historical allies and friends for no other reason than plain old fascism)

You dont train to fight in a war against america, you train to fight in an insurgency.

Americans have no stomach for occupation, they pissed and moaned and ultimately surrendered to the Taliban, and that was on the other side of the world. and the cultures and appearances were so different they might as well have been Aliens.

They'd cry "terrorism" every day of the week, but the Americans would be torn to shreds by Insurgent activity on both sides of the border if they betrayed us. Much like how the Russians marched into the land of their "brothers" with assault rifles, and then wondered why people speaking their language who looked like them, were suddenly killing them all over Russia.

minor ancedote, high treason is a term reserved for people already within the government or positions of authority. *

Thousands of idiots who would sell out their family for a red hat. all because they're mad about bathroom signs.

if push came to shove, those people would be taken care of pretty violently.

you're assuming in a timeline where Canada is annexed by America, that America is still a democratic republic and not a Fascist Warmongeirng Kakistocracy

Sir or Madam, I present to you, Puerto Rico, a territory with no federal representation. may I also present to you the United Fruit Company and Nestle. or at least their model.

Canadians wouldn't have rights in the US, we'd live under a Quisling government for a hundred years or more while the territory is slowly "assimilated" into "American customs". while Corporations would pilfer the resources and workforce here at gunpoint. maybe after 80-100 years, a couple of small regions would be carved out into new states. but make no mistake, it'd be sold as a prosperous unificaiton, and the receipt would read "Military Occupation and bloody insurgency"

tune out of the internet a little more often, turn off the TV. stop engaging with people who are obsessed with media/news/politics. cut off some family members if need be.

maybe, just maybe, take a firearms safety course and PAL, and buy a gun if you are really scared, but Id suggest just finding better things to spend time on than worrying about how stupid amorphous strangers on the other side of the continent/world are being

Last time they lived in a world of alternate facts, is it so hard to believe that they've evolved into alternate reality?

They are looking more and more like Russia every day,

Well, the writing of this world's lore is getting as shitty as fallouts. So. tracks.

Im an odd case who votes based on Foreign Policy first above all else. (for no other reason than because since 2022. I believe We are in an era that will be defined as the beginning of the third world war). So my priorities Federally, go towards the party that has the strongest agenda in terms of protecting Canada's Sovereignty, and upholding the international rules based order. Supporting human rights, and currentley, above all else, opposing fascism. namely the Russian Federation and it's global hybrid war.

Unfortunately since November, Our closest Ally looks to become our greatest threat once again, and that changes the math entirely. the Conservative Party cannot be trusted to protect Canadian Sovereignty. And I will not vote for the Liberals again most likely in my lifetime. Certainly not until they've spent at least a few years out of power. The Trudeau effect needs time to die off.

Logic then points towards NDP. I don't align or agree with very much of their agenda, I am as tired of Jagmeet as I am of Trudeau and Pierre. But Federally It will either be NDP or none at all. Provincially I vote independent,

(I live in a riding that has consistently gone independent, its nice to not be beholden to monolithic parties. Both provincially and federally my region has had a history of voting for the Liberals or Conservatives, and then our representative gets kicked out of the party, and we vote them back in again as independent. If I had a nickel for every time it happened, I'd have 10 cents, which is not a lot, but its weird that it happened twice)

to take any of these threats seriously for a minute. absolutely none of the places the Tr team says America wants to take, would be for any purpose other than resource stripping. They dont want to govern any of these places, "taking" these places would mean military occupation, which I will remind you, the Americans have no stomach for. I'll come back to that in a minute.

But Panama, Greenland, Mexico, and Canada, none of these places under American control would be anything other than resource extraction zones. the populations would be herded into police state control zones run by Quisling governments, no one would have american rights, no voting. no guns. none of the benefits that MAGA and their traitor politicans promised them. It'd essentially be the Nestle situation. Corporations pilfering the country at literal gunpoint.

the national security excuse is null for Canada and Greenland (Denmark), both are already under NATO and both are already more or less allowing america to do as it pleases in the arctic against their own Sovereignty

and on the topic of Canada, and that Occupation I said I'd come back to. Americans have no stomach for occupation, they were in Afghanistan for 20 years and that turned the population hostile against the establishment. that was on the other side of the world, against an opponent who was culturally black and white different from them.

If you want an idea of how an American occupation of Canada would go, look no further than 2022's Russian invasion of Ukraine. Every day since that conflict began, Places in Russia have been catching fire and exploding, people are getting assassinated, the country is under attack from all sides from within, Why? because their enemy, the Ukrainians can blend in with the russian population effortlessly.

Trying to violentley and forcefully take away a country's sovereignty, who is on your border, who are visually, linguistically, and culturally so similar to you that you couldn't tell one from the other, is frankly a suicidal move. it didnt work for the big bad boisterous Russians, it wont work for America. It'll just be "terrorism" every day of the week until the blue states have had enough of it, and decide that the "rebels" are right, and now it's Civil war 2.0

I stopped letting Meta take my attention once they started making my feed fill itself with "reccomended" "you might like" pages and profiles that I at no point ever clicked on or searched for.

before, my feed was exclusively my friends content, and pages I followed.

now, they fill the gaps with evangelicals, gambling, and idiots posting chinese and russian war propaganda.

yup, get the fuck out. im done.

I was going to vote conservative . Until MAGA won. Now. I guess I'm just not voting.

Sovereingty is non-negotiable. You dont give it up under any circumstance, and if someone threatens to take it away, you do like the Ukrainains did to the Russians, you lock and load. Whether that person trying to take it away is a foreign power, or your fucking neighbor. (A traitor)

this is no joking matter. The world is under attack in many places at once by factions that are objectively fascist in nature. the Trump 2.0 MAGA crowd, The Russian Mafia State, The whole Elon Musk Megalomaniac Autistic Billionare trying to change the world thing, Multiple political parties that are subservient to foreign governments, (AfD, NR, Fidesz, SMER, Canadian PPC, and probably the CPC at this rate. and many more)

people with the civic and legal understanding of a 1st grader can pout all they want about how they want Russia America to come to their homes and take over Ukraine Canada because of whatever tinpot reason they boiled up in their drunken rage conversation about bathroom signs on the internet, but understand, there are people who will Kill to prevent that if push came to shove.

making a very similar joke on my facebook page resulted in the loss of a "friend" this week, (and I dont give a shit) guy said "you back a tyrant" and I replied back with "you dont know what you're talking about, stop picking fights". opened his profile up to look through it, trump hats, make canada great again. etc .

yeah, we dont need to speak to each other anymore.