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  • You're comparing people who strip rights from women and minorities to people who believe in equality and trying to say they're both as bad as each other. This is only true if you believe that some members of society should be treated badly at least a bit.

    It's a bizarre take.

  • If it's something that you fancy, you could buy something small for a guinea pig rescue. Small animal rescues get less donations and adoptions but they work really hard. Maybe you can even volunteer with all your guinea pig knowledge from yours?

  • And lastly, the narrative of “some people just want to be criminals” is a right-wing narrative

    Read my post. Not what I said whatsoever. The idea that everyone who takes drugs is just waiting to be 'fixed' comes from a place of extreme privilege. It's very frustrating that you're arguing against the points that you think might be happening rather than reading the thread or even my posts to you directly.

    And again, I've asked you for your 'alternative' to policing and you don't seem to have anything, outside of hiring different police from the community, but not calling them police, for reasons.

  • Nobody is talking about officers with guns. You seem to have a real america centric mind that's unhelpful when discussing reform.

    Now the scenarios I was speaking about you seem to be not reading the whole threads you're replying to. So to recap, Alyaza said there are reasons that people commit crimes and those can be addressed without police, which I agreed with, but pointed out that some people don't actually want their issues to be 'fixed' for various reasons, at which point crime will still exist.

    Your reply is that we should treat the issues that lead to crime, which is just repeating Alyazas point not a reply to what I said.

  • Maggots are the things that breakdown dead stuff, without them you'd have dead animals and plants rotting on the ground for ages while the bacteria breaks them down slowly. I think the whole world would smell worse.

  • Your ideas just add way more questions. You suggest that you want to go back to a time before policing existed, what does that look like to you? We certainly had a form of policing for thousands of years, before that what? Tribal justice? Thats not as nice as you think.

    You talk about trials but that requires something to happen first. Are you expecting these citizen helpers to do that? What qualifications are you offering here?

    You state that you envision these citizen helpers as being compensated, that suggests that you want people employed to police... you know what those people are called?

    The idea that one of your examples is hiring private security comes from a place of privilege.

    You complain about police not turning up for 45 minutes, but want to replace them with what? What do you envision in these 'community helpers' who will turn up immediately and fight crime? I think you're thinking of a superhero film.

    You seem to have an odd idea of what a police force is.

    Then you start going on about US police as if that's the discussion here.

  • there are, for the vast majority of people, clear factors in why they commit crimes that don’t really have to do with Getting One Over on people and that can be socially addressed or disincentivized without any need for cops.

    I agree, but can we deal with those issues? Like take drugs for example, can we fix all addicts? We can make treatment free but some addicts don't want to be fixed, they have too much trauma, they've been through too much, they want to drug themselves to oblivion, and crime, theft specifically, will often be needed in that system. We can make drugs free and legal, but then they'll be dead which is no win.

    What about something more severe like domestic violence? If you take a man for example, who likes to control his partner through violence, there's interventions that we can take to help, but they're not perfect, we have better odds if we intervene with children, but that involves time travel.

  • There's a lot of issues with this self policing thing that I don't think is considered. If there's nobody whose job is policing then you're expecting people to put their lives on the line for strangers for free. What happens to isolated people? Who do they call? Who decides on what actually happens in justice? If someone killed your relative for example, and you were allowed to take that person and torture them, then would you? Many would.

    There might be problems with current systems in different places, but the whole "get rid of the police" thing doesn't make sense.

  • What are you seeing here? There's a small shaft that looks a long way from the hospital, maybe a well, maybe a sewer, nothing to suggest it's anything untoward. There's some people walking through some buildings, then a map with writing on.

    Where are you seeing evidence here? Where are you seeing any of the things you're claiming?

  • I saw them taking a BBC journalist in and pointing out a "Hamas Stash", it was like one gun, some shoes, and a pile of blankets. If that's the stuff you think you're fighting against then you're ok, calm down, stop sniping medical staff.