Deuces @ Deuces @lemmy.world

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How dare you imply most software devs aren't all three simultaneously

Easy. You just use an ancient electric angle grinder

Fair enough. I hope you'll consider reading it as that was intended to be a consolation before genuine critique, but you're your own person.

He ripped you apart for the use of proverb/appeal to authority. You need to know your fallacies if you're gonna argue. An early game mistake, but you gotta roll with the punches.

OP is interested in those topics and he's posting them. I don't think there is malice in their intentions. Like I said, OP also posts good news. If there was ill-intention, then all of the posts would be "misery," and you may have a point. But that's not the case.

This is where you could have clarified your argument. Something to the effect of "I'm not trying to make the claim that OP was being actively malicious. I'm saying that he was adding to the greater misery of all people by posting negative news that has no effect on anybody outside the family it happened to." Remember to never use the phrase "I didn't say" it sounds whiny and people hate it.

Personally I'd add a paragraph here where I'd go off into a short diatribe about the 24 hour news cycle being accelerated by the internet. But that's a stylistic choice.

Again your final paragraph has conviction, which is good. But, this time you refered to an earlier argument which hurt you. You can reference the earlier paragraph, but he just claimed it didn't hold water and your response was "yes it does".

Consider instead: "As I said before "short quote from before". I don't believe that engaging with things I disagree with perpetuates them. Though, if you have a more effective way of speaking out about it, I'd love to hear it."*

List of fallacies: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

For proper logic you want the formal fallacy list, for better arguing you want the informal list.

*Note: "I'd love to hear it" is a great way to end a part of the argument but it must (a) be specified with which part of the argument you're talking about and (b) be something beyond repute. It's a very helpful tool, but used carelessly, it will cut your hand.

Hey, this is gonna come off mean, but I'm really hoping some of it will rub off and you'll take something to heart.

You initial point wasn't terrible. This next post lost anybody that may agree with you. Proverbs and quotes don't win arguments, they come off as appeals to authority.

In your next paragraph you need to give some room so you don't come off as unwilling to agree on anything. "I see where your coming from, but "this thing" rubs me the wrong way. "Explanation of why". In contrast, if what they just said really doesn't make sense to you: "I honestly can't understand how you feel that way given that..."

Either way, this is also where you need to present your evidence.

Your final paragraph is great. You have conviction in your stance on the argument. Great way to end a first reply where you haven't been convinced of anything.

I read through the article to see if any money was going to gay/trans right activism. If it is the article doesn't mention it, and it isn't on their (admittedly not yet filled out) website. Recognition is good in that "acceptance" in capitalism means you think you'll make more money than non-recognition. But that's the symptom of things going the right direction, not the cause. If it's the best seltzer in your opinion go for it, but unless they're giving back to the community they're not actually doing anything.

https://gaywater.com/ for the lazy but distrustful (my people)

It's highly unlikely. Cloudflare is (I think) the biggest CDN provider and one of the biggest domain registrars. Whatever lemmy.world is paying them it's inconsequential to their books. For a sense of scale, they own the IP address 1.1.1.1. (as an aside, 1.1.1.1 is a DNS host, but unlike the other popular ones it has a webpage so it's very convenient for checking if your internet is down or if you're having DNS issues)

Basically, the cost reward is way out of whack for them to consider ddosing such a small site.

Okay, my initial reading of these numbers were that the Americas must be shit at accepting people, then I did a short wiki dive and it has this:

Jus soli in many cases helps prevent statelessness.[11] Countries that have acceded to the 1961 Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness are obligated to grant nationality to people born in their territory who would otherwise become stateless persons.[12][a] The American Convention on Human Rights similarly provides that "Every person has the right to the nationality of the state in whose territory he was born if he does not have the right to any other nationality."[11]

And now I'm thinking maybe the numbers are so low in a good way?

Dude this is sick! I've grown up my whole life in the US and never realized how many other countries do this. Wikipedia has an incredible map: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Im in the same shoes. I decided to try jeroba and realized it was totally different posts from my kbin. A lot I couldn't even find between servers. I have an account on kbin.social and lemmy.world now. I'm finding I have more fun on lemmy.world, but like the (non-jeroba) UI of kbin better.

Your username growing into this sentiment is exactly how I feel. I was super pissed a couple weeks ago, now it's just meh, not my pile of shit to deal with anymore.

I mean if Lemmy collapses yeah... Otherwise this is the best place to kill time on my phone. I don't want to be bombarded with ads and I like having a simple UI, I'm not willing to lose those things if I can find a viable alternative, but I prefer not needing to find one of I can.

I respect that a lot of people are here out of protest, I'm just here because it's the preferable user experience given my tastes.

I'm still on reddit on the computer. The app and site both suck on mobile now, but RES is still kicking and until they kill it it's still the best way to kill down time at work

I did a fair amount of hitch hiking along the west coast last summer. A shockingly large number of people in SoCal told me about their 15 minutes of fame. One guy was one of the CGI pirates from pirates of the Caribbean 3, another had done fairly well in some game show I can't remember, but the wildest was Jake and Logan Paul's dad. North of the Sierria Nevada those stories dropped off quickly.

I can't imagine that most women would feel more comfortable having a big bearded man in the bathroom who was born female than they would a prototypically feminine woman that was born male.

I suspect most people that feel this way are unaware of how well most trans people pass.

Why is it that every time I hear this conversation people on your side are only talking about MtF people and acting like FtM isn't common? I suspect it's because the existence of FtM people nullifies your argument and you know it.

I say this as a cis man, so I'm not claiming to speak for either group. Just applying basic logic and making a guess about the kind of people that would feel threatened.

Edit: I know I'm coming off aggressive, I truly believe everything I'm saying to my core, and don't, on any level, understand why everyone doesn't. If you actually have a counter to this argument, I would be curious to hear it.

That was a trip. As simple as the UI is it somehow never occurred to me it could be copied.

Thanks man. I get insurance though the market but make enough that my healthcare is pretty sub par for $200/mo. I like to call it my "if I go into a comma, I won't wake up wishing I hadn't" insurance plan.

Y'all are the only ones that use the term. The onus is on you to produce a workable definition that can be written down without changing the definition when it's convenient.

I'm willing to accept the definition Ron desantis' lawyer used:

During the testimony, Warren's attorney, Jean-Jacques Cabou asked those within DeSantis' administration what "woke" meant to them.

The governor's general counsel, Ryan Newman, said, in general, it means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them." He added that DeSantis doesn't believe there are systemic injustices in the country, reports Florida Politics.

Source: https://www.fox13news.com/news/what-does-woke-mean-gov-desantis-officials-answer-during-andrew-warren-trial

Do you not have an overlapping fundamental agreement with your partner about how the world works and what's moral values are most important?

Like you're not gonna agree on everything I know, but "are some people inherently better than others, should a justice system focus on punishment or rehabilitation, is education valuable for society, was the earth created by evolution or God, do you want kids(+ a couple questions if "yes")" are, in my mind, things you need to agree on with the person you intend to share your life with.