Custoslibera @ Custoslibera @lemmy.world

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Damn, it was the one place that hadn’t been corrupted by capitalism.

Yes you’re correct.

I have read and had to cite multiple times Crenshaw’s paper on intersectionality so I should have been clearer with my language and known better.

What I should have said is I want specificity in the language of describing who and what problem is trying to be addressed so it could very well be a feminist, systematically racist issue affecting African American women, rather than simply ‘it’s woke’.

Haha no I didn’t think you were saying I’m a bad person.

I honestly don’t mind if you did, I’ve been called much worse.

I’m genuinely appreciative of being called out. Challenge what anyone says IMO.

I really was ignorant of how far back the term was used (I was aware of the 2010’s usage etc) so it’s important context for me to learn this.

So much of black American culture is squashed and by me saying that ‘you shouldn’t use woke because right wingers use it’ is in some ways me being racist or at least culturally imperialist.

To be clear though that wasn’t my intent when I made up my original comment about ‘woke’ I was really just expressing my frustration that the right have adopted it so wholeheartedly seemingly every time it’s mentioned it’s always a ‘wink wink nudge nudge’ you know what we really mean when we say it and I’m pissed off about it to the point whenever I hear anyone use the term I immediately try to get to the bottom of what they really mean when they use it because invariably it’s the racist/sexist/xenophobic etc usage rather than the originally intended one.

You’re not wrong.

I did completely gloss over the fact this term existed long before it was co-opted by the right.

I’m wrong about that for certain.

If I was to make an excuse I suppose it would be that I just don’t hear leftists using this term much in its original form. It has been twisted and hijacked and that is sad.

Maybe we should take it back but IMO I’d rather just call an issue what it is rather than create umbrella terms that encapsulate a variety of really complex topics.

If it’s a feminist issue it’s a feminist issue.

If it’s a representation issue it’s a representation issue.

If it’s a systemic racism issue it’s a systemic racism issue.

I’d rather we call it what it is than ‘woke’ but fully open to criticism of this position based on the fact this is ignoring its origin.

I hope you’re correct. I just don’t fully believe it.

Hmmmm I also frequent white supremacist sympathising discord and my general take away is that they are more desperate and more willing to take violent action to align reality with their views.

Of course this is only anecdotal so it’s kind of a moot point.

I’d be more confident in your opinion if there wasn’t a prevailing view that America will reelect Trump.

If trump isn’t elected it may not even stop fascism though.

Hitler was jailed before he rose to power, trump could very easily do the same. If I’m going to be optimistic about anything it’s the fact that Trump is very old and may not survive prison or the presidency for an extended period.

If Modi, Trump, La Pen, Orban aren’t elected/reelected perhaps I’d change my view but I don’t have good reasons for thinking those things won’t happen.

If you believe that if those people are elected and it won’t lead to more fascism then I’m not sure what to say.

If they ever secure power my fate is basically sealed. I’ve accepted that.

It’s not slippery slope to be clear eyed about reality.

How old do you think I am?

I’m ancient by Lemmy standards.

Age has made me more aware that most adults have no idea what they are doing but think they actually do by virtue that they’ve survived to their 40’s and beyond. This makes them incredibly dangerous.

No things wont be fine. At least for me and many others anyway.

I’m sorry you can’t see that yet.

There is an underclass of angry, often white, men who are frustrated at their life and instead of directing their rage at the capitalist system, which is responsible for the position they are in, they’ve been told immigrants, socialism, feminism, LGBTQIA+ and brown people are the problem.

They are now organising to make their fictional narrative reality and I will be crushed when this happens along with millions of others, like you, who thought this could never happen again.

The tragedy is that those same men who think they’ll be empowered by fascists will be swept aside the moment they are no longer useful. They are victims to an extent too, just that they will have enacted violence and terror while being wrong.

Thanks for this, reading now.

I’ve also been busy reading the history of the rise of the Nazi party particularly the SA.

It’s scary (scary is not a strong enough word for the combined emotions of frustration, anger, fear, anxiety) how close current USA events are replicating the original rise of Nazi Germany.

Oh alright, you’ll do.

Are the Proud Boys homophobic?

Yes.

Welcome and please stay on Lemmy. It’s what reddit used to be and only improves every month the more people come here.

“Well are we going to have a serious conversation? Because firstly I need to tell you about the 1647 agreement between the ethnic Russians located in the western Donbas who sent a letter signed gestures off screen to aide here see these letters, completely legitimate. Completely. They say that Ukraine belongs to Russia for ever and ever and they are Nazis because in 1806 the countries border was changed in the Crimean-Polish revolutionary conflict led by the Tsar of Russia.”

I’ve just had premonitions of cars crashing into each other in car parks when the ‘self parking’ mode is hacked…

I talk to people online who hate immigrants because they are ‘ruining their town’ and they want to make sure their town is ‘kept in their hands’ and when I call them racist for saying that an African shop hand is incompetent because they can’t speak English they can’t accept it.

They don’t see themselves as racist, sexist, homophobic or fascist.

They’ve unhinged from reality.

He is a member of the proud boys which are homophobic.

If you’re a member of a group that hates the fact you’re gay and you are gay then it’s self loathing that’s driving that behaviour.

Sugar, Sugar by The Archies

I can’t stand gays that are self loathing.

It’s 2024, no one cares if you’re gay. Get over it and accept yourself. You’ll be happier.