Count042 @ Count042 @lemmy.ml

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Tell that to Libya.

I'm a system admin who self hosts a bunch of shit off of a 48 Ru rack in his washroom.

The internet used to be run off of the collective will of a bunch of people like me. I was there, back when it was FIDOnet and pirate bbs's.

P.S. while I disagree with your viewpoint, this was a hilarious read, and I didn't down vote you.

Spoken like someone that is too young to remember what the internet was like before everything got sucked up into google.

I apologize for the accusations of lying and bad faith arguments.

If you actually want to learn about the history of the area, these are good starts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes%E2%80%93Picot_Agreement

The long and short of it is that the British promised the Arab's self determination, and then broke the promise to give the land to Zionist immigrants mostly from Europe who absolutely stole the land from the indigenous people, with terrorism being one of the tools used. See the Irgun, Heganah, and Lehi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haganah

Fun fact: The first Israeli Prime Minister, Menachem Begin, organized kidnapping operations for the Irgun before the establishment of Israel. He was also in charge during the massacre of Deir Yassin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin

They also completely lied.

The Ottoman empire didn't exist after the Great War.

For the historical record:

https://lemm.ee/u/letsgo intentionally confusing the Central Powers with the Axis and deceptively editing a quote to try and sell the lie.

All in order to justify a genocide.

Maybe you could update it with yours:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire

In the aftermath of World War I, the victorious Allied Powers occupied and partitioned the Ottoman Empire, which lost its southern territories to the United Kingdom and France. The successful Turkish War of Independence, led by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk against the occupying Allies, led to the emergence of the Republic of Turkey in the Anatolian heartland and the abolition of the Ottoman monarchy in 1922, formally ending the Ottoman Empire.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

Mandatory Palestine[a][4] was a geopolitical entity that existed between 1920 and 1948 in the region of Palestine under the terms of the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine.

After an Arab uprising against the Ottoman Empire during the First World War in 1916, British forces drove Ottoman forces out of the Levant.[5] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence in case of a revolt but, in the end, the United Kingdom and France divided what had been Ottoman Syria under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs. Another issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, in which Britain promised its support for the establishment of a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. Mandatory Palestine was then established in 1920, and the British obtained a Mandate for Palestine from the League of Nations in 1922.[6]

Also, this is literally copied from your link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Powers

For the World War II alliance, see Axis powers. The Central Powers, also known as the Central Empires,[1][notes 1] were one of the two main coalitions that fought in World War I (1914–1918). It consisted of the German Empire, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria; this was also known as the Quadruple Alliance.[2][notes 2]

Jesus, the link you provided was FOR the great war.

Did you even read it? Of course you did, you bad faith liar, the text literally from before your quotes was the time period that you intentionally removed.

On the tiny miniscule chance you actually believed the nonsense you spouted, do you see that you were either taught completely erroneously, or outright lied too?

EDIT: To address the racism of the original post:

Do you think Ottomans are Arab? Do you think Persians are Arab?

The whole point of Lawrence of Arabia was the attempt to get the Arabic people to mutiny against the Ottoman empire.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Revolt

Maybe you can read this and actually learn that Arab isn't a generic term for middle easterner.

There are quite a few on Lemmy.

One is a mod on News on Lemmy.world

The Ottoman empire sided with the Nazis?

How has no one commented on this ahistorical nonsense.

The Ottoman empire dissolved in 1922.

After The Great War aka World War One, the British took over the area called Mandatory Palestine in 1920.

Everything about this post is insanely wrong.

My first computer game was a book with the code in the book that you had to type in.

I participated in FidoNet.

I saw labyrinth in the theaters

Remind me again who pulled out of arms control agreements first?

The real question is if the US would be interested.

The clients are a bit under developed by progressing quickly, and are all open source.

Gajim can, but you have to create it yourself.

Nah, xmpp is better.

I'm a sys admin/devops engineer, and yes, storage is far more expensive then people realize.

This is the very definition of enshittification.

EDIT: To those downvoting:

Do you actually know what the definition of enshittification is? Apparently not.

Enshittification (alternately, crapification and platform decay) is a pattern in which online products and services decline in quality. Initially, vendors create high-quality offerings to attract users, then they degrade those offerings to better serve business customers, and finally degrade their services to users and business customers to maximize profits for shareholders.

It doesn't matter that the cost of storage is a real thing. They gave things of value away for free to grow their user base and to try and capture network effects. Now that they think they have that they are taking away ( or decreasing ) the free stuff of value they gave away.

The fact that storage has value is literally an important part of enshitification.

It wouldn't be enshitification if they gave away free stuff that wasn't valuable.

Churchill led a fucking empire, and during that same time period chose to starve 4 million what would become Bengali's.

Like, I see the argument you're making, but the British fucking empire is not the example you want to use.

Huh, that list actually has Goleta. I'm a bit surprised about that.

Good on Wikipedia.

Goleta, CA. WW2

Not really a counter argument, but you're wrong about the whole not a single city bit.

He's by definition an autocrat at this point.

He didn't have an election and just remained in power.

A reminder for those who will automatically respond "Ukraine is fighting for its life"

It definitely is, but the US had an election in the middle of the Civil War, and during WW2.