Jesus fucking christ… Why does everything that anyone disagrees with “propaganda”? Why can’t it be someone with a different fucking viewpoint? What the fuck is wrong with people on Lemmy that we can’t discuss something without it being “obvious propaganda” or some other bullshit?
Time is linear.
Ignoring the rogue state actions that the Iranian RESPONSE was a response to is such a bad faith action it has to be propaganda.
You can make anyone look good, if you pick the right starting place to tell a story. Not recognizing that that is a classic propaganda strategy is a education problem for you.
Not everything is black and white. There is room for disagreement on parts of this conflict. I don’t agree with the US sending troops of any kind to Israel and I think we should stop giving them weapons until they stop committing genocide.
Again, time is linear. That is absolutely black and white.
The only point I was trying to make is that it doesn’t seem like a massive escalation to send 100 troops and a defensive system when we already have 50,000 troops, many war ships, two nuclear aircraft carries, and a ton of aircraft in theater already.
There is a big difference between being in that theater and putting american troops that you know will be a priority target that will be killed if Iran defends itself against another Israeli attack.
I repeat, there is a reason this wasn't given to Ukraine.
EDIT: also, why are you saying there is a hole when just a little while ago you were saying Iran was incapable of damaging Israeli targets with ballistic missiles?
It's putting 100 US military personal in place to operate a legitimate military target that will be one of the first things targeted.
We didn't give this to Ukraine, despite them begging for it, because of the implications of US military personal potentially being killed by Russia.
Seriously, to the people acting like the obvious next step to ww3 is no big deal, what happened to your critical thinking skills? Do they go out the window, along with any anti war sentiment, when a Democratic president is in office?
The Iranians ballistic missile launch was in retaliation for Israel assassinating a visiting diplomat in their capital and for Israel's terror attack against Lebanon.
Get out of here with this obvious propaganda that completely ignores the rogue nation of Israel's attempt to start a regional war to save the political career of someone trying their best to get trump elected.
Fine, then the fact that Iran hit many of the targets has become public despite the Israelis best attempt to censor that information from coming out should tell you everything you need to know.
So should the fact that Iran got through with their first attack despite preemptively giving the targets to US/Israel, and that US did most of the interceptions at the cost of 1 billions dollars, and Israel used up most of its stock of ammunition.
By the by, given the cost of the ballistic missiles and the cost of the interceptors, hitting nothing is still a success. Not that that is relevant to this conversation give the fact that we know they did hit quite a few of their targets.
EDIT: Speaking of, a drone attack from Hezbollah hit a mess hall for a military base in Haifa. 67 confirmed casualties reported so far. Iron Dome didn't even detect it.
Nevermind the fact that they still haven't retracted the probably false 'Screams without Words' article literally written by a member of the IDF with little to no reporting experience.
Your language around the mbfc website makes it seem like you're involved with them.
It's funny how you have literally nothing to say except for how complicated it is. Not, you know, why it is so complicated. Just that it is.
You have also explicitly and presumably intentionally not engaged with anyone pointing out that literally every president of my lifetime except for Trump, and I think Clinton, has already done what you are claiming with ZERO evidence is far to complicated to do.
You're the one making an extreme statement that requires extreme evidence to hold up. All of your responses that don't have that are just intentional bad-faith gaslighting.
I have no idea why you are doing so, but it isn't a stretch that it is to provide cover for the government using those weapons to commit genocide.
On emby, if you don't have a session cookie, it opens on an authentication page.
I've had Google label it as a mitm attack and get labeled malware three times. It gets fixed in a day or two upon review, but all major browsers block it during that time.
Time is linear.
Ignoring the rogue state actions that the Iranian RESPONSE was a response to is such a bad faith action it has to be propaganda.
You can make anyone look good, if you pick the right starting place to tell a story. Not recognizing that that is a classic propaganda strategy is a education problem for you.
Again, time is linear. That is absolutely black and white.
There is a big difference between being in that theater and putting american troops that you know will be a priority target that will be killed if Iran defends itself against another Israeli attack.
I repeat, there is a reason this wasn't given to Ukraine.