Communist @ Communist @lemmy.ml

I'm an anarchocommunist, all states are evil.

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I've done the same, I don't think windows is ready for normal users.

I don't agree that it's a pain for the regular user, I think it's a pain if you use niche software, or software that's designed to not run on linux intentionally.

Outside of that, it works perfectly fine. The vast VAST majority of users will not miss any software.

Linux in a huge number of cases performs better than windows, and the only place where windows seems to win these days is anti-cheat, which is malware. Windows is certainly better when it comes to allowing users to install malware, but that's really about it.

I would not agree that is common at all, these are edge cases and I bet your mouse works with piper.

plus soon immutable distros will fix any chance of system breakages, and it's not like similar things don't regularly happen on windows.

Do you actually believe windows doesn't harm users intentionally? Wait until you hear how they spy on you.

Fall guys is not the only game, nearly all of steam works flawlessly. So meh, and it is epics job to fix that. Play any other game on steam, fall guys isn't important at all for the vast vast majority of users.

and yet nearly everything on steam works flawlessly.

It is absolutely the job of app devs to support the platform, I have no idea why you would believe otherwise, and as far as gaming is concerned I genuinely believe the only place linux loses on steam is anticheat, which isn't a matter of linux side support. Do you have an example?

the vast majority of hardware is supported, and as someone who works IT and gives linux to the elderly, I don't agree at all with the user unfriendliness, provided you use mint and kde.

If your software doesn't run that does suck, but the vast majority of usecases work perfectly with the breif explanation of "use the app store for any software you need to install." Do you have any examples of user friendliness issues, or is it just that there are choices to make at all?

Nobody has forced you to do anything, suggesting better, more respectful software is not force, why bother fighting against a more ethical alternative that respects you?

My advice is honestly, just use steam, it's largely a better experience anyway. I don't think fall guys is exactly necessary. That's a very self-imposed hoop, i'd get it if it was critical work, or if there were no alternatives, but, steam is a perfect experience.

It's epics job to support linux, not linux's job to support epic.

This isn't much of a hoop, you install wine and run the installer with it, furthermore, I'd rather deal with the kind of hoop that isn't actively harming you intentionally any day.

That's because like vegans, there is a moral imperative that most ignore or don't care about, we have a genuine emotional attachment to foss, and because you are ignorant of the topic, you don't care to listen.

What he said is harmless, true, and there is a moral imperative to say it, and ontop of that it isn't like a diet, it's better software that respects you, doesn't spy on you, and for free and the only downside is a 15 minute install process (and the use of a flash drive). Why do you care enough to fight that?

I don't mind, do you have any questions?

You really do have to pretend that they're insignificant.

They're extremely significant. Overhyped? Maybe, but extremely significant nonetheless. I think a lot of people here have gone "well, if it's overhyped, that means it isn't even vaguely interesting" and I think the real truth, as much as I hate centrism, is in the middle.

Try to consider the fact that I don’t care enough about my PC to try and optimise every aspect and that maybe some people have a different view of the world to you, it’s not something you need to be upset by.

If you read what I wrote instead of assuming what I wrote, you'd understand that your response makes literally no sense in response to what I wrote, I was trying to make you see why people might be emotionally attached to these issues. Why reply to what you won't read? Why comment on things when you don't care what others think?

Odd that you decided to be rude to me when you don't even know what I said. Or do you hate the idea of having a dialogue, in which case, why post anything at all?

I tried it out and discovered none of the annoyances I had with windows existed here, then I started customizing things, redesigning my interface from the ground up to make everything as optimized as possible, to an extent that would never be possible on windows.

Plus I have massive ethical concerns regarding proprietary software.

Now I can't leave.

How do you know you're happy with windows if you choose to live in ignorance?

What if windows does a ton of annoying things that you're simply used to and accept as a part of life, that you're missing out on fixing completely because you've chosen ignorance?

I don't think you should say that you're happy with windows if you've never investigated any other options, you really just don't know, and it's not shameful to not know or not care, but if you say you're happy with something, that implies a level of knowledge that you don't have.

If someone was proudly ignorant of a topic you cared about, would you not, understandably, be annoyed when they give their opinions founded entirely upon ignorance?

I think that might be what you're seeing here, sorry if this is an upsetting post, but, I just want to make sure you understand how that sounds to the people who did bother to not be ignorant. I'm ignorant of many things, and I choose not to comment on those things or claim to know things about those things, because I know what I don't know, I think it's wise to do that.

Furthermore a number of people have a genuine emotional investment in FOSS that you may not understand, there are good reasons for this, the world would be a significantly better place if FOSS was the norm, for example, in electron microscopy, there are perfectly good electron microscopes that are no longer supported by their companies, forced to run windows 95 and that can never be updated because of proprietary software, the only way of updating these would be to spend literal millions of dollars on this. There's various aspects of healthcare that would be dramatically improved by FOSS being the norm, when you know many many things like this, people often form an emotional attachment to these things that you may not understand from a position of ignorance, and that seem unreasonable. It's often helpful to find common ground with people, rather than be proudly ignorant.

Especially for marginalized groups, FOSS could be a huge benefit, as an example, when the holocaust occurred, the nazis turned to companies to get information from people, in the modern era, could microsoft be used by a government not interested in your best interests to corral you and kill you? Yes, absolutely, even if this is unlikely, it's something that couldn't happen AT ALL with foss, ever.

I don't care if you use linux or not at the end of the day, but I do hope you understand that these people have a genuine, reasonable emotional attachment to FOSS that makes them behave in unreasonable ways when it is challenged. Especially when countless people who are completely ignorant of the problem tell them it doesn't matter on a regular basis, this is an extremely common, compounding annoyance for the community of FOSS enthusiasts.

I hope that makes sense, and doesn't anger you, I just want you to understand where all of this emotional stuff comes from.

Trackmania requires no more configuration than it does on windows, and if you use KDE, the interface is almost identical.

The only thing you'd have to learn is to install steam from the app store instead of from the internet, if you give it a shot, I don't think you'll find it to be as difficult as you imagine.

The full steps would be

install linux mint (if you have no preference that's the easiest distro) > open app store > install steam > install trackmania from steam > hit play

edit: just tested it to verify, yeah, trackmania required no additional setup or anything from the standard windows version

Installing linux is a 15 minute process, the only hard part is getting a flash drive, and you only have to do it once, once you have that flash drive you can do it easily endlessly.

I highly recommend trying it out, linux is significantly easier to use and has significantly less maintenance burden. That's why I give it to the elderly, they've all said it makes their lives significantly easier, and none of them have switched back.

Plus, even on a windows machine, the first thing you should do is reinstall the operating system when you get one, especially for second hand machines. Every single major manufacturer puts a bunch of garbage on the computer some of which is nearly impossible to remove without a reinstall, considering you already should do this anyway, it makes it a much easier pill to swallow.

some examples of how linux is easier:

1. Your computer won't forcibly restart for updates, ever
2. Your computer is never doing anything in the background that you don't ask it to do, so you don't have to worry about if the power cuts off, whether your machine will still work.
3. All of the updates are centralized so you don't have to worry about various updaters
4. All of the installations are centralized so you don't have to worry about using all of the various installers windows has, making sure not to enable it installing extra crap, etc
5. Guaranteed no cruft that slows your machine down every time, you don't have to go through uninstalling a bunch of crap
6. Centralization means unless you do something very strange you never have to deal with malware

There's other things, but I have found that these few things make a significant difference, especially for the elderly.

I would consider it unwise to avoid learning about a machine you regularly have to interact with, you'll only make your life more difficult in various, impossible to observe ways from the other side. I guarantee the only difficult step will be the first install.

When you look at a coffe cup from the side, you know it has a hole in it. Because you imagine, not because it’s a reflex.

You're looking at this backwards, you know those things because of previous experiences, you predict this might happen due to those.

This is still a matter of prediction, and if that had never happened to you even once, I guarantee you wouldn't look for it.

They're also significantly smaller than our brains and multimodality has been shown to help with reasoning, so, considering they're text only and significantly smaller than our brains, their significantly reduced functionality is to be expected. Especially when you factor in that our brain has verification layers, which have only recently been discovered to work for LLM's, none of them even implement this yet as far as i'm aware.

Weird, I use linux because it makes my life significantly more simple. I also give it to the elderly for that reason