CharlesDarwin @ CharlesDarwin @lemmy.world

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I mean, if someone wants to call themselves socialist, maybe it's fine, but I think most of their discussion should be about the policies they are for, how they would work, etc., and what that would mean for everyday Americans.

Once the qons throw out that tar baby Red Scare stuff, and the target(s) start engaging with them on this, tacitly accepting the framings and the definitions that the qons have chosen? Game over. Now the target(s) are on the back foot, trying to prove they aren't the demons a lot of normies and qons have been trained to think anyone with those labels really are, and they get to wrestle the tar baby endlessly.

Instead of doing that, I suggest these people make the qons justify THEIR positions. How is it morally defensible that the likes of Taco and fElon got out their chainsaw and have already murdered hundreds of thousands of children and jeopardizes millions more in the future? As an example on the national stage.

If progressives waste tons of time defending themselves, arguing over the absurd framing and definitions and terms that the qons have spent decades sharpening, they are already losing. Their narrative should be about painting a brighter future for every American, while demanding the qons defend THEIR reprehensible actions and political platforms.

Nearly 20 years. I guess his butthurt goes back to 2006 when it comes to Rosie. She told the truth about him and he hates that. She called into question his bullshit image, and of course, he threatened to sue her for making "false statements".

Which of course were true statements, and nearly anyone that even looked into Taco back in the 80s would know....I'm sure most Americans that only knew Taco from his stupid game show believed his image of being a self-made bigly successful bidness man.

Of course, her being an overweight, outspoken lesbian makes him even more angry....lol.

Bannon called for it, explicitly - they want to flood the zone with shit, and they hit the ground running with Project 2025 as well as lots of Taco's personal vendettas and weird proclivities (like the tariffs, like invading Greenland and Panama, and renaming the Gulf of Mexico, etc.).

Nice to see that Taco is taking his job so very seriously.

This guy is still spinning over Rosie, FFS. What a gigantic fucking baby he is.

But the left are so fucking grating and have their heads so far up there own asses that they never actually problem their views effectively.

I would not say all, or even most of them. But some of the most vocal and the ones with some of the most influence on some platforms certainly are. Endless lecturing and gatekeeping. Struggle sessions, Oppression Olympics, and a cloying sense of superiority about ticking off certain identity boxes. [1]

No wonder some people peel off and start getting red-pilled by the likes of Rogan, FFS. The left has got to get back to the basics - and honestly, some of these most strident cases should be marginalized. I think many are afraid to do so or else the entire circus will be pointed at them next.

The fact that Zohran Mamdani resonates with a whole lot of people has little to do with him being who he is (male, Muslim, Asian, I'm supposing cishet, etc.) and more about his ideas. Same goes with Bernie [2] and AOC. The left should keep this in mind at all times, IMHO.

[1] As always, I point to the former comment section (BBS) of BoingBoing as an example of this. It was cartoonish-level. Xitter is really fucking bad whenever I dip into it, but on BoingBoing, the moderators were completely in the tank for this nonsense. Some of the BB subreddit threads cover the clusterfuck that was the BBS...

Also, the term "welfare" has had so much work done on it over the decades so that it is so racially coded at this point. I bet anything that is measurable in focus groups. A lot of whites tend to not know/conveniently forget that the largest group of welfare recipients are....white.

I mean haven't the likes of Chomsky and Cenk been pointing this out for decades? When polling Americans on the issues, they tend to be progressive?

That's in spite of a helluva lot of propaganda that is nonstop, 24/7, in favor of corporations, by the way...

Imagine being so stupid as to think the RAPIST was going to do something about sex trafficking pedos?

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It'd be a real shame if these people were treated like the terrorists they actually are.

Still? This nutless wonder is butthurt over Rosie? What a POS.

It bears repeating, even places like this one. I've run into shocking amounts of innumeracy and utter lack of critical thinking - in addition to illiteracy. In the United States, as least.

I remember kids in school dunking on "book learning" and that they valued "street smarts". These are exactly the types that are now "doing their own research" on things, but completely without any of the fundamental building blocks to separate the wheat from the chaff, other than by vibes.

If our education systems was beyond the reach of conservative/Republican monsters, children would be well-served by teachers that hand out something like this as an essay-type question to explain why the claim is suspect - and have them show their work. You'd get to cover critical thinking, media literacy as well as some basic math all in one fell swoop. I'm sure lots more instances could be found over the years, plucked straight from news articles...

In our current education landscape, all it would take is one snowflake to tell mommy and/or daddy that are infected with fauxbrain, and that teacher would be fired for "indoctrinating" their children with intelligence, I guess...

I live in a small town of about 4k people and the day after Obama was elected you would have thought that a 2nd 9/11 happened or a nuke was dropped.

I remember I worked with a guy and another co-worker was sometimes still finishing up listening to NPR at a low volume, and around that time (Obama years), they'd be playing a soundbite from Obama. Almost every time Obama was talking, even though we could just barely hear it, the other co-worker would turn to me and mutter how much he hated Obama's voice. Like clockwork. Not what he was saying (if we could even make it out). Just his voice. This same co-worker thought NPR, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, etc....were all extreme left outlets, too, lol. And he spent some period of time where he was super-upset about...checks notes....seeing two government workers in a trucks. He mentioned this multiple times, so I can only guess it was some thing on hate radio around that time. When asked follow-up questions on why he's upset, nothing coherent could be discerned. Same dude was riled up about people that couldn't afford their house getting bailed out by government, or something, too.

I lost contact with him before Taco was elected, but I can only imagine he thinks that Taco is "fixing" everything. I don't know what he was like before Obama, but he was nearly inconsolable about Obama. It's why I think they uncreatively talk about "TDS" when Taco does completely outrageous things - Obama did completely normal things, or even if he did nothing at all, and they lost their heads over it.

Of all the people for the dipshits to rally around, they picked this failed game show host. It's so very much stupider than I could have possibly imagined. I sort of get how they lionized Ronnie Raygun, despite how awful he was for this country and so on....the veneer at least seems halfway decent and he at least pretended to love this country and those that live in it.

Taco has just a complete disregard for everything good about this country and hates everyone. What is there to like about that?

That's just science! And math!

Thank you.

The other thing to point out is that there are plenty of Taco supporters in younger generations which most likely had a lot less lead exposure.

Depends on the boomers. My parents and all their friends are/were just fine when it came to their mental faculties. I'm not sure boomers are really much different than prior generations or the ones that followed...

I doubt most of the teabaggers would listen to anything that counters their emotional beliefs. And yeah, Maher comes across as smug - but he's not at all wrong....I mean, it's probably even more true these days since California is the 4th largest economy now.

The people always bitching about Cali (but most likely have never been) have real "I hate the prom queen and prom king, they are so stuck up!" energy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6739677/Bill-Maher-makes-fun-Americans-living-red-states-saying-affluent-educated.html

They are extremely cult-like about Taco. I saw one of them put one of those stupid "never give up" shirts [1] on their kids and went out in public with it last summer. I mean, what the actual hell. Who knows if the spell will every break with the true believers. Even if Taco were to stroke out on live tv and shit his diaper, they'd probably blame that on Hillary or Biden or Hunter's hard drive, oops, I mean, "laptop". These people are fucking crazy.

[1] The pose where he was thinking "photo-op" right after the shattered glass hit his ear.

LOL, he must be talking about himself, since he never gives a rat's ass if someone else's life is destroyed - see for example, the outcomes of DOGE, ICE....