I feel like we mostly agree with each other, we just don’t agree about the extent to which FOSS is helpful.
FOSS is a tool. Tools are useful, not helpful. People can be helpful. Especially with the right tools.
(although not trivial, critical vulns can still exist for years)
Because the amount of participants are trivial. If people took FOSS seriously and stopped paying billions of dollars to CS...
To me, you don’t need FOSS to build a (literal) guillotine, and you don’t need FOSS to spread flyers.
If you're using software to do just that, then I'm saying that you're wrong. If you're using physical fashions like crafting a club and having a fight with people who agree...
People don’t have open source hardware phones, running mobile distros of Linux
I do.
but not the solution in the sense of doing the work to achieve the end goal
Well, I AM saying what Richard Stallman has rouhgly in an extended elaborate fashion of much more profuse explanations and statements, that FOSS is necessary to stop CS from being respected let alone relevant to fucking anything digital based on an agreement towards respect for another human's life without knowing that person. Without needing to know anyone to make that statement. Even I agree with him regarding the subject to which respect is given to people I have the opposite of respect in history denoting such appropriate.
Unable =/= Unwilling to discuss with someone unworthy of speaking to even a minute. You have, thus far, made it past that but I'm not at a moment I'm able to sit down and more thoroughly explain anything let alone diverge into extensive details
...capitalists use FOSS products...
You're not wrong. I'll give you that. I will not argue with your stance against capitalism. In fact, I stand with you, entirely. FOSS does not hold a stance against capitalism. It can be used by capitalism. However, Anarchy cannot function without FOSS in any digital fashion. Neither can any Revolution or, by a much better success, a Guillotine.
At the end of the day, any respect given to any Closed Source software is only a literal Suicide. You don't know shit for running Closed Source software. It may not kill you. It will probably just steal all your money. And the shit will pull it off by your knowledge and consent without accommodating your blatant lack of understanding. In the near future, it will arrange your inevitable death. Choice will be largely irrelevant to such events too boot.
At the end of the day. FOSS is the only solution because the opposite is that you consent to using software that no one but one mother fucker knows what does. End of Story. Inevitable EOTW.
I've been doing this a decade and a half now. I have the experience of idiots discussing this issue with zero awareness or even more likely, a tangentially opposite direction I expect is nothing less than a three letter spam lie.
Xucking anyone. Doesn't really matter. People don't shut the fuck up about it and I've never heard anyone say what I did that math on and observed myself occurring relentlessly. I don't give a shit about what you think it is and I ain't here to lecture anyone or argue. It is what it is.
FOSS can certainly be used to create that which can fix capitalist issues. I'm just done talking to you about it. You're adamant against shit and I'm not interested in a fight.
I don't give a flying fuck about anything NT. They have more changes to that book than there are letters in it.
Don't get me wrong, I don't take the OT with any literality either but at least they didn't make edits like that so there really is some attribution that can be handed to the writers back in the day. Notably, that they actually wrote that. I don't really go any further than that though.
Do you know how we have knowledge of that level of accuracy in what we can read today?
Also, that, because I do have zero belief in anything, ever. That's like paying donating to a guy to rape your kids. Literally.
Well..clearly the guardian does get paid under the rocks to STFU about Lemmy and Raddle.me and I never "donated to them because I don't got much money but used to on common dreams(fuck them and Jake for not listening to obvious solutions and gripe with none of the answers I have and they don't listen to) and when I get paid enough, prolly in February, I'll be donating a little bit to Grist. Now, never will it be to theguardians.
FOSS is a tool. Tools are useful, not helpful. People can be helpful. Especially with the right tools.
Because the amount of participants are trivial. If people took FOSS seriously and stopped paying billions of dollars to CS...
If you're using software to do just that, then I'm saying that you're wrong. If you're using physical fashions like crafting a club and having a fight with people who agree...
I do.
Well, I AM saying what Richard Stallman has rouhgly in an extended elaborate fashion of much more profuse explanations and statements, that FOSS is necessary to stop CS from being respected let alone relevant to fucking anything digital based on an agreement towards respect for another human's life without knowing that person. Without needing to know anyone to make that statement. Even I agree with him regarding the subject to which respect is given to people I have the opposite of respect in history denoting such appropriate.