CerealKiller01 @ CerealKiller01 @lemmy.world

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That's the thing - to be valued by "the public" (mainstream society), one generally has to know something or be able to do something. If someone can't do that (because they didn't have the chance to learn or develop skills, or because their skills become irrelevant), the simplest way to feel valued is to change your point of reference. These people are treated like idiots by most of society, but within their group they're the smartest people there are. And all those sheeple that make fun of them? well, they're the real idiots, and when the whatever happens, they will see just how wrong they were. All one has to do so he can be considered smart and valued by this group is to accept some BS about the earth being flat or whatever. for someone who isn't valued by society anyway that's about the lowest entry price possible.

Anyway, my point is that it’s very easy to believe all of it without being sceptical, because once you lose the trust in society, you don’t trust anything they say.

Yep, you hit the nail on the head. 99% of people don't believe conspiracy theories because they're dumb or mistakenly came to the wrong conclusion. They believe because it allows them to create a reality where they are a part of a chosen few who have seen the light.

I knew a conspiracy theory nut who said that society is about three months away from collapse. As in, on any given date society was due to collapse in a few months.

First society was due to collapse due to cancer caused by COVID vaccines. Then it turned to "COVID vaccines cause sterilization and cancer, which will collapse society in a few years" and complete disregard to the prior time line. Then society was due to collapse due to a global war caused by Putin using nuclear weapons. Which turned to "Putin will invade [my country, which does not border Russia. Or any country that borders Russia, and so on].

The fun part was that each theory didn't over-ride the previous, but they somehow build on top of each other. The atom bomb didn't replace the vaccine cancer, they were both part of the same plan. He believed in many other world-ending conspiracy theories, so I think he, like, gradually added layer. There was a thing with 9/11 that was somehow related to a world ending event (Probably began as a "The US is going to atom bomb the middle east and start a world war") and a weird economic conspiracy theory about countries not having any assets that probably grew from the 2008 financial crisis.

So, some context - this group is called "Neturei Karta". They are Anti-Zionist in the sense that they believe that Jews aren't allowed to form a self governing state until the Messiah arrives and will rule in god's will. The Palestinians themselves is meaningless to them (much like Iran's Anti-Zionist. As in, their leader actually met with the Iranian president some years ago). This is a more extreme form of the belief that a secular Jewish state has no right to exist, which in itself is a more extreme form of the belief that a secular Jewish state has the right to exist only to act as a platform for a religious Jewish state. The latter ideology is shared by a large part of the current far right government of Israel.

I have an elecom huge at work, and when somebdy asks me what kind of mouse is this, I say it's not a mouse, it's a rat.

Hebrew has a non-insult that sounds like an insult - "In your mother". It's not a polite phrase, mind you, but it's not usually used directly as an insult. It has many varied uses. it can be a shorthand for "Swear on your mother's life", mainly to express doubt (ex. "Dude, I won first prize in the lottery!" "really? In you mother!?") or a plea ("I really need a ride right now. In you mother, could you come pick me up?"). It can also be a modifier to "leave me alone", where "leave me in your mother" has about the same meaning as "leave me the fuck alone"/"fuck off".

In Hebrew, it's a horseshoe turn.