CeeBee_Eh @ CeeBee_Eh @lemmy.world

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It'll probably be another day or two before you get the email. It'll have a link to an APK to download.

Ah yes, but then they'll just make it illegal to buy and own 2nd hand stuff.

Who'sSQL?

Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.

Because you can make guns with metal.

Yuzutu?

Prove it's not misinformation.

Ah, ok. I thought you were saying the other thing.

No. I don't "make such statements" as my day job. I'm not trying to prove anything to you. This is the most interaction I'm going to have on this topic.

Oh I'm sorry. You're right. I shall read my LLMs more carefully. /s

It's allowing Americans to speak freely on America without government interference.

Another way to look at it is that It's allowing anyone to speak negatively about Western governments.

And the point I was making is that TikTok is pushing pro-CCP propaganda; regardless if it's anti-American or not, but that's the part you keep focusing on.

And everyone keeps going on about "censorship from the gov" but the reality is that I see tons of posts, videos, blogs, articles, reels, etc on US based social media that says all kinds of stuff about the US, Canadian, UK, European, etc, governments. It's just so odd to me that Americans are so hyperfocused on "free speech" when I see all that stuff everywhere anyways. Half the time it's literally videos FROM TikTok that are just reposted elsewhere.

The main difference is that on TikTok there's a higher number of wack jobs that peddle garbage like flat earth, chem trails, anti vaxx, etc. The difference is that on Western social media that content usually comes with a disclaimer. The CCP is more than glad to allow that content because none of their citizens will see it. Chinese people can't see content on TikTok, they have a segregated version with completely different content for Chinese users. If the CCP cared about freedom, there would be no segregation.

I don't keep links to things I've read over the years. You really think I have a folder on my desktop labelled "CCP Propaganda Proof" with various docs and links?

But the Chinese people were never the enemy. The only ones who push that narrative are people who want to sow division and hatred.

It's the CCP and US government that are at odds with one another. The issue with TikTok is the CCP has control and influence over content served to Western uses.

Throwing in the race card is something that wumao are instructed to do regularly.

The fact that, like you pointed out, you hadn't said a single thing about race is a strong indicator that the person you're replying to is a paid troll.

Btw "wumao" is literally "five dimes", which refers to the "50 cent party" who are paid internet commentators with the goal to push CCP propaganda. The "50 cent" part refers to how much they get paid per comment.

Now I'm not saying this person definitely is a wumao, but my guess is that they are.

but the fact is no foreign country needs to do anything to make Americans hate their government.

No one was arguing about making Americans hate their government. The argument is about TikTok being a pro-CCP propaganda tool. That's it.

You keep bringing it back to "hating America", when that was never the point.

What you're saying is actually a typical diversionary tactic that pro-CCP people use. Shift the target of the argument away from the CCP, exactly the way you did.

No. I'm not doing research for you. Even if I did, we both know you'd either dismiss it or ignore it. I'm a nobody to you and you're already biased against what I have to say.

We won't see eye to eye on this. We simply won't agree. It would just be a waste of my time.

LMAO. I have actually. I even have family from China.

Try again.

There have been multiple studies that have demonstrated that pro-CCP content outweighs anti-CCP content by at least 3 to 1. Even on profiles that prefer anti-CCP content the pro content still gets suggested at a 3 to 1 ratio.

No american with an IQ above a glass of undrinkable tap water likes their government or thinks their country is worth anything.

Complete false dichotomy. This isn't a "my government can beat up your government" squabble.

The reality is that ByteDance has offices for CCP officials in their buildings. The Chinese government has a direct line of influence on the people who work at that company. A government that has openly hostile relations with the West (not even just the USA).

This isn't a discussion about whose government is better. It would be equally inappropriate for a US entity with direct control from the US gov to directly influence Chinese people via an algorithm to push propaganda. The Chinese firewall prevents such a thing from existing or having any significant impact, whereas the opposite isn't true.

Well, the American one doesn't have an incentive to turn its own people against its own government with propaganda. As is happening with Tiktok and pushing pro-CCP and anti-American content.

And even if the only concern was spying, it's like saying "well a creep on the street snapped a nude photo of me through my windows, so I may as well take my own nudes and pass it around the neighbourhood."

why should I give a shit about that at this point?

I guess we should just all lie down and die.

Honestly, this is one of the saddest and scariest comments I've read in a while.

"I've already had one McDonald's burger that's bad for me, I may as well only ever eat McDonald's burgers! Why should I care at this point?"