@Evkob@Gargari, this is not so clear, Mozilla has made a pact with the devil some years ago and is sponsored by Google, it even employs several Google devs who develop FF, the risk of depending on outside investors. Chromium is certainly from Google, but it is, just like Gecko, FOSS and therefore every browser developer is free to gut it, throwing out any Google API, which they are doing in Vivaldi (leaving some to the user's choice in settings), no homecalls to Google. https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/a-dangerous-conflict-of-interest-between-firefox-and-google/
@drekly, simple ads are not a problem, if they are based on the content of the page and not based on user logs. Ads as is only can be somewhat annoying if there a lot in the page or they appears in the middle of a concert in YT, but no are a risk for the user privacy, no more than a commercial poster in the street or an ad in TV. As with all, bad the abuse. Years ago you saw 1-2 banners in a page, but novadays you must seek the webcontent between advertisings, banners, cookieadvices and popups
@drekly@Plswrk, nobody needs to work for free, but creating incommings by spying the user to sell his data to third party isn't an acceptable way to gain money. There are a lot of methodes to gain money in the network, but with surveillance advertising spyware is the worse and with big risks for the user, which can't control where his personal data ends up.
@ZippyZiggurat@drekly, it's called create incommings by surveillance advertising, I call it Spyware as is.
They sell your data to third parties, which apart of a violation of your privacy rights, is a big security risk, nobody can control how your data is traty and protected, several cases of dataleaks with even bank and medical data prove this. There are other methodes to create incommings which don't invade privacy.
@normalmighty@RagingRobot, well, you can use front-ends like CloudTube, Invidious instances, Piped or an Desktop client like FreeTube.
You can also watch YouTube sandboxed searching the video with Andisearch and viewing it in the search results.
@tirednbored, most secure if a FOSS is selfhosted, but only if you have and use an own server, for a lot of user because of this, it isn't an option when they don't have the needed trust to a third party server.
Anyway, it's very important, something nobody does, except me, to read the PP and TOS of a product, there are often bad surprises, independent if it's FOSS or not.
@tirednbored, I also prefer FOSS, but as I say, it's very important to control which, it's risky to use FOSS if it's outdated, unatended and lacks an active community. In this case I prefer an alternative of a small startup, even if it isn't FOSS. F.Exampl one of my favorite is this one, a hobby project of 2 electricians https://www.ssuitesoft.com/categories/webapps.htm
Avoiding only proprietary soft of big corporations which create incomming with surveillance advertising, profiling the user to sell this data.
@tirednbored@Stuka, the bad thing of FOSS is when it don't have a great community and an active developement, then it's also open for hackers. A normal user can't check if a somewhat bigger app has a dangerous script or an security hole, even if he has the source code. Nobody check it, not even devs, except if they want to fork it, less users which are convinced that it's synonym of security and privacy, it isn't, it's not the sense and proposit of FOSS.
Expl of a FOSS https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/60a309e91ba1039c3527053867e0e210ff2e18628a01acc264d82430e6436889/detection
@gianni@RavenFellBlade, well, there are also FOSS which is way better as an equvalent proprietary soft, but the sense of FOSS is to permit the sharing of scripts which has many advantages in the development of new applications. The common mistake is the belief that by definition FOSS is more secure, stable and private than proprietary soft that many users have, which is false. This depends on many other factors, like maintenance and the purpose of the developer company.
@lordryvan@BonesOfTheMoon, I don't understand how it can be in the 21st century that a system as idiotic and archaic as the imperial one continues to be used. NASA has already caused millions of dollars in damage by crashing several probes due to miscalculations with these outdated and devoid of any logic measurements, based on parts of the body of a king, dead centuries ago instead of clear physical and mathematical units as in the rest of the world.
@DukeNukem1990@BeigeAgenda, correct, the key is the sovereignty of the people, not that of a single person or a small elite, this would reduce the communist system to a mere fascist dictatorship just as rotten as capitalism called democracy and where banks and multinationals dictate the rules, thereby it is not a democracy.
@stebo02@worfamerryman, not only for privacy, its also to bypass country restrictions, eg, try to watch a movie or serie in the German publicTV in their official Homepage, from other country, even of the EC. You can't without VPN.
@Evkob @Gargari, this is not so clear, Mozilla has made a pact with the devil some years ago and is sponsored by Google, it even employs several Google devs who develop FF, the risk of depending on outside investors. Chromium is certainly from Google, but it is, just like Gecko, FOSS and therefore every browser developer is free to gut it, throwing out any Google API, which they are doing in Vivaldi (leaving some to the user's choice in settings), no homecalls to Google.
https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/a-dangerous-conflict-of-interest-between-firefox-and-google/