Carrolade @ Carrolade @lemmy.world

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I have no issues with you sticking to the facts. If you just did that, we'd have no issues, remember? It's when you add things, remember your ninja edit to delete "radiological"? Don't blame me for calling you out on this stuff. Or, y'know, just let me know why you like to twist things.

edit: btw, "sour lemons?" Are you actually an older person? I haven't heard that one in ages.

Ahh, the "I know you are, but what am I?" defense. I see we've regressed back to grade school. And you call me juvenile? lol I guess Trump does that one too, so you could also be really elderly.

Or, y'know, you could just admit you like adding things to your sources beyond what they actually say.

In what way can context change the meaning of "releasing weapons" into something else?

I already told you several times, you take certain true things, mix them with lies, and then spin it together into your overall message. Then you do ninja edits when these are pointed out. Did you forget?

Kinda hard to call it misdirection when I'm directly quoting you from a different comment you made and asking you to either support it or admit you were twisting words around. Seems like a pretty straight direction to me, no? I mean, if you really read it, it'd be pretty easy to say where in it you got that from.

I'm not asking you to distort anything. I'm asking you to tell me where in your sources it supports you when you said this:

admitted to using chemtrails to disperse biological weapons

Because what I read is another, much less dangerous bacteria was spread to study how spreading happened. And we can tell, too, because tons of people didn't die, and weapons are for killing people. Make sense? Or you can just admit that you've been subtly twisting the truth to suit your ends.

It doesn't really matter if you care. Just stop making up things to add and stick to the true parts and everything will be fine. Can you do that maybe?

Scaring me? More like offending me. I don't like lies in my YSK subs. Like I said, if you had stuck to only the true parts of your posts, we wouldn't be having this problem. Not that I expect you to really remember what I said anymore I suppose.

edit: We reached max comment depth after his next reply. lol So I'm continuing with him in a new comment thread. Shhhhhhh...

You can try personal insults all you want, but it's your words and your sources I've been using. Anyone that reads them will see that I am right and you are not.

No, you're not. You're repeating some facts, and slipping in lies. I'm not going to let you get away with it.

You said they released biological weapons. That is not true, they released other bacteria. Your sources said that. Can you admit it?

Oh, I will. Sure, you can keep just repeating yourself, but all I have to do is use your own words to point out your slipped-in falsehoods.

Where in your sources does it call the released bacteria the actual dangerous weapons themselves? Or were they using a different, less dangerous bacteria, like your sources actually said?

I was quoting you. You know what quotes are, right? What about when I said:

Were those experiments performed by dispersing actual weapons? No, that is false.

Did you even read my comment or are you just trolling me?

You said:

US government admitted to using chemtrails to disperse biological weapons

Now, were there experiments on the spread of weapons? Yes, this is true. Were those experiments performed by dispersing actual weapons? No, that is false. Other, less deadly agents were dispersed, not weapons.

Btw, I've quoted you. So if you edit to change your comment, people can still see my quoted version, so a ninja edit will not help you. Can you perhaps admit you were simply wrong to say weapons were what specifically was dispersed? Are you strong enough for that?

You being a liar and then covering it up is not minutia. Had you simply stuck to facts from the beginning, we'd not be having this problem.

And no, again, not weapons, that's you lying again. They were studying weapons, by using not-weapons. Experiments are often done with proxies like this. If they were using real weapons, a lot of people would have died. Instead, I think one did, if I remember right from your links? Correct me if I'm wrong on the death toll. You should go back to sticking to the truth, at any rate.

There is an edit marker next to your post, made when it was already hours old. It is obviously not the same. Fortunately, I quoted from it back then, so people can clearly see what it originally said. You cannot change this.

The only thing that has stayed the same throughout, is me. The evidence is there for everyone to see.

Doesn't matter. Everyone else will have read through my comments all at once just to get to this point. Since they read them all together they will remember easily, and notice that mine are not edited.

By the way, going back and deleting things for "clarity" is very cowardly. A real man does not do such things. Even if they make a mistake, they just admit it, which takes confidence and courage. Trying to hide things instead is weak, cowardly and shameful, just fyi.

You should review my old comments, that is not an accurate description of what I've said. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else. From my earliest and still completely unedited comments, I have said you say some true things, and some lies, and that you mix them together.

I have never tried to "discredit all" of anything. I have fully acknowledged that some things you say are true. You just lie alongside the true things, and then delete them when you are caught.

My whole point is you mix truth and lies. You pointing out the true parts over and over now, is consistent with this. So is you doing ninja edits to hide when the lie parts are caught. It's all in the quotes and timestamps.

Do you have any evidence of me lying anywhere?

Nice wall of text instead of dealing with what I said, you deleted one of your lies. Desperate are we?

Don't do ghost edits. Editing every comment does not hide them either, people can tell when things happened from everyone else's timestamps, which you can't change. You are not the first person to think of this.

People know what ghost edits are. You didn't clarify shit, you deleted a lie you got caught on. We are not stupid.

edit: Oh, and admitting you do them often is actually worse.

If you were consistent in what you said, there wouldn't be edit markers.