Carrolade @ Carrolade @lemmy.world

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Excellent. I wonder if we'll finally hit a critical mass over there.

Assuming he abides by constitutional law, this will be his final term.

Was wondering how long it would take to roll something like this out. Bout time.

most Americans voted for a man they have every reason to believe is a rapist.

Minor quibble, but Trump won ~75 million votes by current count. Out of our population of 330 million people (including ineligible voters) that is 22.7%.

So no, most Americans did not vote for him.

I don't fully agree with this, but I agree with enough of it that it doesn't really matter. To add to it, now is the ideal time to push for reform in party leadership, after a major loss.

Actually, we who engage in nonviolent direct action are not the creators of tension. We merely bring to the surface the hidden tension that is already alive. We bring it out in the open, where it can be seen and dealt with.

I just wanted to highlight this statement. He's absolutely right.

Trump and his supporters use “unity” as a euphemism for conformity, expecting marginalized groups to suppress their identities.

How do dems manage that one?

Also not sure how dems enable fascist tactics, when one person-one vote is a primary platform position.

That last line was the funniest thing I've read in the past few days, so thank you for that.

People like to focus on economic factors because they're easily quantifiable. More vague factors disassociated from economic lifestyle are difficult to quantify, so harder to study and talk about. By way of example, though, when someone really hates black people, that's not economic, it's personal. It's something else entirely. Men wanting power over women isn't economic. Even immigration complaints aren't really economic, that's just an excuse to cover up much less defensible reasoning.

Not very much stock yet.

Accusations flying around on the internet based on whatever people's imaginations can come up with is something we should expect at this point. Making shit up on the internet is about as easy as activities get, just in general.

If any actual evidence is presented, that's when it becomes more worthwhile to seriously consider the possibility.

Let's not forget other inflationary impactors. Russian energy coming off the broader market, Ukrainian food exports being offline for a year, a major shipping route through the Red Sea becoming more expensive to navigate, and even smaller things like a certain ship getting itself lodged sideways in a major global shipping artery for a little bit. Not even to speak of existing tariffs in the US that never came off.

Lots of individual factors stressing an already pandemic-stressed situation.

I understand the sentiment, but I'm not so sure it's actually true. We'll have to see how many left leaning folks came out for Harris, percentage-wise. Not counting Gaza uncommitteds, they're a different story imo.

It's all about the data though, nobody cares about sentiments or online complaints, it has to be hard numbers to actually convince people.

Yes, I think we can.

But remember, during WW2 the USSR and the US were able to cooperate to defeat fascism. We cannot be too picky when it comes to alliances when there's bigger fish to fry. Ideological purity is not our friend, never has been. Even if that makes everything a confusing pain in the ass, which it does, that diversity of opinion is necessary if we are going to robustly pursue our goals and not get too stuck up our own asses and blinded.

It's partly a coping mechanism. I agree its no longer politically advantageous, but in the free world people can say what is on their mind, and this is apparently it. If consequences stem from that, then that is also part of freedom.

Is what it is.

They believed some of Trump's bullshit. I suspect this was because they were exposed to more of that bullshit than any counter-messaging. This could be due to isolation from traditional sources of information.

Ultimately, I have to pin that on the Harris campaign. I wanted the prosecutor to prosecute the case against the criminal. But to do that you have to show up to the courtroom. Where is the courtroom these days? It's not on CNN or 60 Minutes, it's wherever the jury is hanging out. That's online. Trump showed up there a lot more than she did.

I'm ultimately glad, he was giving democrats a bad name. We could afford that a decade ago, but we no longer can.

There's a mild reshuffling of the parties happening, with the Tulsi Gabbards switching to red and the Adam Kinzingers switching to blue, and I'm fine with it. It's about priorities. Which parts of your platform and beliefs are more important than the other parts?

There's around 2 million Gazans still alive. That's a lot of ethnicity still to be cleansed if cleansing is the goal.

I didn't say 330 million registered voters. I said 330 million people, as in total population of the country including all nonvoters and ineligible.

At any rate, I don't think any singular factor dominated, each person has their own mix of issues. Economy was a big one, including things like rent prices that the feds have little control over in our system. Gaza was a smaller one, definitely. There's at least a dozen more.

Polls cannot really accurately capture this, they're too clumsy a tool. Focus groups can though.

There are around 50 million registered dems in the country and Harris is currently sitting at around 70 million votes. Our problem is everyone else in a country with 330 million people.

Fine, technically true I suppose. But when you gut something that comprehensively and change its thrust, I think it's a little disingenuous to call it the same thing. It had all the workers rights stuff stripped out of it.

edit: Disingenuous on the bill author's part, not yours. Though tbf, they did rename it.