CarlMarks @ CarlMarks @lemmygrad.ml

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Case in point: the consequences of Dems co-opting the George Floyd protests was tp increase cops at the expense of public services ans to then spend even more on cops because Biden gave them federal funding. They did the "tough on crime" right wing thing and this was forced into the mainstream position.

Bernie and AOC are sheepdogs for the Dems. They are all-in on the party. When people become disillusioned with Dems, they pop in to spread false hope and convince people to come back and believe in the Dems.

It is true that the welfare state is popular and thar is basically what they are selling. The public wants healthcare, not the cruelty and expense of the capitalist extraction insurance industry. So Medicare for All sounds great in comparison. It's very popular when actually explained to people.

But it will never become policy without turmoil. The health insurance industry is a huge leech excreting profits for the owner class. Dems want to dangle it in front of voters but will never suppory it when in power, they will enginerr a Lieberman or parliamentarian because the party is completely beholden to capital, including insurance capital.

I'm sure you agree with a lot of what I have said. I just want to emphasize that Bernie and AOC are not really outsiders, they are ineffectual refornists whose only current function - one that they embrace - is to keep people that hate the crimes of the Democratic Party, up to and including genocide, to keep voting for them.

"Both sides bad" is why we have Trump.

You have Trump because you have capitalism and the reactionary political class serves a purpose in it. Liberalism tells you to only think of politics in a vacuum: whatever the last election was and what the next election is. In this vacuum they limit the world of politics down to what the two capitalist parties promise for capital, which varies and triangulates over time. The GOP was originally a party of free states and slavery abolition and the Democrats slavers and Southern white racists. Look at how they shift over time, both parties existing now for over 120 years. If you only ever look at the previous and next 4 years of what the capitalist political duopoly gives you, you will never understand the currents or why your "good guys" are increasingly xenophobic and transphobic or how political choices are actually made, because it is not just every four years at a ballot box proxied through some weirdos in the electoral college.

Anyways, both sides are bad. Have you already forgotten Biden's genocide in Gaza? Dems' "tough on the border" pivot? Breaking the rail strike? Being competent stewards of imperialism? I think liberals like to forget Blue Crimes, they are basically told to do so by mass media and it doesn't comport with parasocially liking the sunglasses ice cream guy if you acknowledge he's a genocidal racist. It isn't really your fault to be in that bubble, but it is on you if you don't seriously listen to others taking the time to explain its problems.

Democrats took America from gays are illegal, to full gay rights with marriage.

Absolutely wrong. Gay rights were popularized by left struggle, not struggle from Dems. Dems were dragged there by younger people that were radicalized by the people actually fighting for gay rights. Pride was a riot. The liberal assent and cooption was lagging, not leading. And in the US, gay marriage at the federal level was created by fiat of unelected lords (the Supreme Court) and not Democratic policy, despite Dems having full control of Congress and the Presidency in the neighboring period. Finally, gay rights are not full. I don't understand why you think they would be. Gay people still face all kinds of oppressions in the US and the law only rarely protects them.

Environmental laws have been all Democrats.

This is simply factually incorrect. Early "environmental" laws were largely implemented by Republicans, including Teddy Roosevelt, also a racist genocidal war criminal. This was in many ways responding to muckrakers and organized labor who saw the environment, living conditions, and working conditions as inextricable.

Nixon signed the EPA into existence.

If Democrats did nothing, Trump wouldn't have signed 76 executive orders reversing Biden orders on his very first day.

Democrats don't do nothing, they just avoid doing the vast majority of things good for humanity in general and even just the US citizen working class. Even when they promise to do so, they have an excuse and whipping boy ready to go. Oh, Ovama and the national platform said single-payer? Sorry there's Lieberman and we can't kill the filibuster and oh man no discipline at all. Cancel student debt? Oh sorry there's a parliamentarian that we can just override and fire and okay we will issue a conspicuously legally weak executive order and then fold at the earliest opportunity.

But Democrats do implement policies, they just do so in the interest of capital. Their platform represents certain formations of capital, the GOP's some others, and they share many donors. The different formations undo each others' work when in power. Or at least they don't flex their muscles until something is intolerable to them.

What is the bias?

Sounds like whatsboutism. What time is it in Moscow?

It seems pretty clear you just don't know what imperialism is full stop.

The article does not describe any political persecution, it just repeats a vague assertion by one guy and then makes implications about COVID lockdowns

Capitalism will not abide people not working just because they don't want to. Even in rich countries like the US where imperialism and the undocumented immigrant labor underclass could provide everything truly needed to survive, capitalism requires that the population be exploited to realize even greater profits.

I mention imperialism and the immigrant labor underclass because work is still necessary for production and momentary examples to the contrary (e.g. COVID lockdowns) are an illusion built on the backs of the hyperexploited. However, if we were able to depose capitalism, we could focus our efforts on eliminating the need for work rather than building everything around profit maximization.

Democrats and university admins just ran a standard PR playbook. They depend on students' naivete to succeed at it, and that worked. Several encampmentd accepted mere promises of consideration to disband while others got stronger concess but without them actually being in hand, which were easy to renege on.

For campus protest to work against something as entrenched as Zionism, these lessons need to be learned and consistently passed on and there need to be strong ties to orgs outside the university that can provide seasoned advice.

That's a process error, not an individual's fault. Sounds like not a single person reviewed the code, they just said, "sounds good, deploy!" on a major production system.

You can be certain that there are tons of other bugs in the system that just have more subtle effects.

In other words, the person with a correct opinion at the party. What a nice compliment!

Nostalgic nationalism

Most coherent liberal

Sounds like I was right lol

I guarantee you that it is blatantly rooted in orientalism and treating 1 billion Asian people as either agencyless victims or buffoonish idiots, and it's never questioned that crackers "joking" about him a yellow cartoon character would be a problem. This is a longstanding trope with roots in Western "race science".

You can also find it in the ethnic rhetoric used against Russians at the moment - "savages", "hordes", "orcs", and the classic false trope of sending masses to die as an attritional strategy (the last one also being literally Nazi rhetoric). You also saw it in the anti-brown islamophobia after 9/12.

When the US wants to target an enemy, they have very little trouble playing on the unquestioned racism of their audience. They often don't even think it's racism at the time - or even afterwards unless sufficiently embarrassed.

FDR was a communist,

I'm actually implying that he was an anticommunist and that The New Deal was an attempt to mollify more radical elements, including militant labor.

If communism is so fucking great why does it fail all the fucking time hey?

Communist countries, i.e. those run by a communist party, have consistently punched above their weight, particularly considering the relentless attacks they face.

For example, compare the struggles of Haiti to those of Cuba. Haiti has suffered under neocolonialism and with basically zero counterweight to the constant imperialism directed at them, including still being forced to pay debts to France for their own liberation from a slave colony and undergoing several Western-supported coups, on top of the constant drain of resources and underpaid labor that come with the territory of exploitation by international capital.

Cuba, despite blanket sanctions and constant targeting by the global seat of capital for over half a century, provides massively better lives for its people, with better literacy and infant mortality than the US. It's still a poor country, understandably, but it teaches a simple lesson about how international capital actually functions for imperialized countries.

Happy to answer more questions.

Sure but that's no excuse to not make fun of these babies. Their reaction is very funny.

Yes, of course I think that. Even self-proclaimed Marxists have often barely read Marx, let alone liberals that speak entirely in vagaries.

At best, someone claiming to have "read Marx" has skimmed and misunderstood The Communist Manifesto. That is, incidentally, not a book, more like a slightly extended pamphlet.

I'm guessing you don't talk to people, and haven't read Marx beyond the above description.

Tantrum noted, accepted, and appropriately celebrated.

Sorry but I just learned that sarcasm and jokes are disingenuous so I think I'm gonna spend my time getting upset about things I've never tried to understand instead.