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It's funny, everything in the article was verifiably true but because pro-Zionists criticize the source it got removed. Robert Fisk must be rolling in his grave.

"It's our job (as journalists) to challenge the centers of power, and to describe with our own vividness the tragedies and injustice and viciousness of the world, and to try and name the bad guys," Fisk says in an interview in San Francisco. "American journalists won't say what I can say. I think the New York Times should be called, 'American officials say.' At least, you'd know what you were reading. If journalism is about writing (stories) that look like government reports, then I'll go and do gardening or something."

On Wednesday evening, four civilians from the same family “including two women” were killed in an Israeli strike on a residential building in the city of Nabatiyeh, a Lebanese security source told AFP, updating an initial toll of three dead.

“The residents of the apartment targeted have no links to Hezbollah,” added the source, requesting anonymity as they were not authorised to speak to the media.

I don't think we're getting anywhere. I'm going to block you. Nothing personal just I don't think there's anything more to be gained.

I'll ask you again, please point to any specific information carried in the article that you find false.

About Mondoweiss

Mondoweiss is an independent website devoted to informing readers about developments in Israel/Palestine and related US foreign policy. We provide news and analysis unavailable through the mainstream media regarding the struggle for Palestinian human rights.

Founded in 2006 as a personal blog of journalist Philip Weiss, Mondoweiss grew inside the progressive Jewish community and has become a critical resource for the movement for justice for Palestinians. We continue to follow debates over the role of Israel and nationalism in Jewish American life while seeking to reflect a diverse community of views on issues of international importance. We recognize that Jewish voices are often prioritized in discussions of Israel and seek to challenge that dynamic by bringing a universalist focus to an issue that is commonly dominated by narrow points of view.

We publish original on-the-ground reporting, analysis by scholars and personal stories. As the site has grown, we have developed a large group of regular contributors who are committed to high journalistic standards of documentable evidence and reliable sourcing.

Mondoweiss editors select content for the site on the basis of our shared commitment to news professionalism as well as justice for Palestinians. We do not have a single editorial position on specific issues, but aim to build a diverse online community, with special focus on viewpoints generally ignored by large media outlets. Writing published on Mondoweiss represents the views of its authors and does not necessarily represent the opinions of the site or its editors.

If you have problems with specific content, point it out and we can debate it. If you simply don't like the website then you should block me.

ZNetwork, formerly known as Z Communications, is a left-wing activist-oriented media group founded in 1986 by Michael Albert and Lydia Sargent.[2] It is, in broad terms, ideologically libertarian socialist, anti-capitalist, and heavily influenced by participatory economics, although much of its content is focused on critical commentary of foreign affairs.[citation needed] Its publications include Z Magazine, ZNet, and Z Video.[3] Since early November 2022, they have all been regrouped under the name ZNetwork.

I am a socialist. Why do you assume that makes the information any less credible? Do you think the Wall Street Journal is any less partisan?

Manufacturing Consent Noam Chomsky and the Media (Documentary) https://youtu.be/Li2m3rvsO0I?si=5uWUjsP3VqcnVXqY

The author is hardly some bloke down at the pub. https://lsa.umich.edu/history/people/faculty/jrcole.html

This is what I get when I ran the Arabic article through a translator. We must have chosen different articles.

Reports: Egypt threatened to suspend the peace agreement with Israel

Dubai - Mahmoud Abdel Razek - Egypt renewed its “complete rejection” of any military operation in the city of Rafah, warning of “serious consequences” that might result from that, according to a statement issued by the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs on Sunday.

Egypt affirmed in the statement that it “will continue its contacts and movements with various parties, in order to reach an immediate ceasefire, implement the truce, and exchange prisoners and detainees.” The Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs called on influential international powers to intensify pressure on Israel to respond to these efforts, and to avoid taking measures. It increases the complexity of the situation, and causes harm to the interests of everyone without exception.” The Egyptian threat to suspend the Camp David Accords, which has represented the cornerstone of stability between the two countries for nearly half a century, came after the Israeli Prime Minister announced that he had ordered the army to prepare for a military operation in the city Rafah. The prominent Egyptian parliamentarian and media personality, Mustafa Bakri, had previously warned of the danger that might happen to the peace agreement between Egypt and Israel, due to Israel’s practices.

More than half of Gaza's population of 2.3 million people were displaced to Rafah to escape fighting in other areas, and were crowded into sprawling camps and UN-run shelters near the border. Egypt fears that thousands of Palestinian refugees will flow into its territory, while relief groups have warned that the attack The Israeli movement will exacerbate the already catastrophic humanitarian situation. The Palestinian Hamas movement said that any attack in Rafah would “blow up” the talks brokered by the United States, Egypt and Qatar regarding the exchange of hostages held by Hamas in Gaza and Palestinian prisoners.

https://gulf365.net/gulf/

Founded in 1995, ZNet (also known as ZNet, ZNetwork and Z Communications) is a website with contributors that include Noam Chomsky,[8][9][10] Eduardo Galeano,[8] Boris Kagarlitsky,[8] Edward Said,[8] Chris Spannos[11] and Kevin Zeese.[12][13] John Pilger has described it as one of the best news sources online.[8] Rene Milan of the Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies called the site a rich source of information about participism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZNetwork

You would have to be entirely ignorant of the history of fascism to assume people on the left are fascist.

I typed out a long response and then I reconsidered. Honestly I don't give a rats ass what you think about this. I stand by my original statement.

I will wait for Waters to comment and I will reevaluate if more information comes to light. You however are free to drink the Kool-Aid.

No on its own it isn't. First of all I'd like to see Waters respond and secondly I'd like to see more than one person relate the account.

I am old enough to remember the hit job done on Jeremy Corbyn for expressing support for Palestinians.

Waters making up a song about the band’s former agent, Bryan Morrison:

I'm not sure I believe the anecdotal evidence of a former producer. I reserve judgement until further evidence is provided

Being an anti-Zionist is not the same as being anti-semitic

So you don't have any evidence, and now you want to bring mythical "Russian aligned bad actors" in to support your claim?

this was my response to another commenter

According to a paper published by NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence, the strategic use of human shields by groups like Hamas hinges on exploiting Israel's aim to minimize civilian casualties and the sensitivity of Western public opinion. This tactic allows Hamas to either accuse Israel of war crimes if civilian casualties occur or to protect its assets and continue operations if the IDF limits its military response. This approach is an example of 'lawfare', using legal and public platforms to challenge an adversary.[6][7] Israel has said that Hamas's actions have been responsible for civilian casualties in Gaza,[8][9] Human rights groups have said that even if Hamas were using human shields, Israel must still abide by international law to protect civilians.[10][11]

Amnesty International investigated claims made by Israel in the 2008–2009 Gaza War and the 2014 Gaza War that Hamas employed human shields, but found no evidence of such usage. In their report on the 2008-2009 war, Amnesty said that "contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials" that it had found no evidence of Hamas directing civilians to shield military assets or that it had forced civilians to remain in or near buildings used by fighters. Amnesty found that Hamas has launched rockets from near civilian locations, which it said endangered civilians and amounted to a violation of the requirement that Hamas take all necessary precautions to protect civilians from military action, but that this does not constitute shielding under international law.[12] In 2014, Amnesty said, regarding repeated allegations by Israel of Hamas using civilians as human shields, that it "does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to 'shield' specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks." They also said that Hamas urging residents to ignore Israeli warnings to evacuate “are not the same as directing specific civilians to remain in their homes as ‘human shields’ for fighters, munitions, or military equipment.”[10] Human Rights Watch also said they found no evidence that Hamas had used human shields in the 2009 conflict.[13] In 2023, HRW stated "Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups need to take all feasible precautions to protect civilians under their control from the effects of attacks and not use civilians as 'human shields.'"[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#cite_note-HRW2023-14

Understand some people are squeamish about using wiki as a source, but they have cited all of their sources and we can track them back to the originals if you like.

According to a paper published by NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence, the strategic use of human shields by groups like Hamas hinges on exploiting Israel's aim to minimize civilian casualties and the sensitivity of Western public opinion. This tactic allows Hamas to either accuse Israel of war crimes if civilian casualties occur or to protect its assets and continue operations if the IDF limits its military response. This approach is an example of 'lawfare', using legal and public platforms to challenge an adversary.[6][7] Israel has said that Hamas's actions have been responsible for civilian casualties in Gaza,[8][9] Human rights groups have said that even if Hamas were using human shields, Israel must still abide by international law to protect civilians.[10][11]

Amnesty International investigated claims made by Israel in the 2008–2009 Gaza War and the 2014 Gaza War that Hamas employed human shields, but found no evidence of such usage. In their report on the 2008-2009 war, Amnesty said that "contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials" that it had found no evidence of Hamas directing civilians to shield military assets or that it had forced civilians to remain in or near buildings used by fighters. Amnesty found that Hamas has launched rockets from near civilian locations, which it said endangered civilians and amounted to a violation of the requirement that Hamas take all necessary precautions to protect civilians from military action, but that this does not constitute shielding under international law.[12] In 2014, Amnesty said, regarding repeated allegations by Israel of Hamas using civilians as human shields, that it "does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to 'shield' specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks." They also said that Hamas urging residents to ignore Israeli warnings to evacuate “are not the same as directing specific civilians to remain in their homes as ‘human shields’ for fighters, munitions, or military equipment.”[10] Human Rights Watch also said they found no evidence that Hamas had used human shields in the 2009 conflict.[13] In 2023, HRW stated "Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups need to take all feasible precautions to protect civilians under their control from the effects of attacks and not use civilians as 'human shields.'"[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#cite_note-HRW2023-14

Understand some people are squeamish about using wiki as a source, but they have cited all of their sources and we can track them back to the originals if you like.

I don't care what you think. I want you to supply actual evidence. Do you have any?

There is plenty of evidence of Israel using Palestinian children as human shields. Perhaps you got confused.

A United Nations committee focused on youth rights accused Israel Thursday of failing to stop the mistreatment of Palestinian children in military and police custody.

The group's report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, and alleges that detained children in some cases face torture, solitary confinement and threats of sexual assault.

Assembled by the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, the 21-page document comes three months after a UNICEF paper criticized the "systematic and institutionalized" mistreatment of Palestinian children detained by the Israeli military.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-report-accuses-israeli-forces-of-using-palestinian-children-as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/

Sidenote, there was no image accompanying the above story, but it's very simple to find images with a Google search

Please supply evidence proving Hamas will not let the orphans leave.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231211-report-nearly-25000-children-in-gaza-now-orphans/

Initial figures from Gaza indicate that 24,000-25,000 Palestinian children in Gaza have become orphans as a result of Israel’s genocidal bombing campaign on the besieged enclave, Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor said.

The rights group’s initial report highlighted that 10,000 children had been killed as a result of Israel’s bombs, while some 25,000 had lost one or both of their parents. Some 640,000 children had lost their homes after they were either partially or totally destroyed, leaving them homeless.

In addition, the future of hundreds of thousands of children is still unknown, as 217 schools in the Gaza Strip have been damaged or destroyed during the Israeli attacks, severely affecting the education process in the Strip.

In both cases a smaller weaker nation has been on the receiving end of military aggression. In both cases civilians were displaced causing them to become refugees.