Candelestine @ Candelestine @lemmy.world

Hello.

---

Read more

Posts

6

Comments

1,928

Joined

2 yr. ago

Israel is totally dependent on American and European aid and investment.

That seems to be the central point your argument hinges on. Any actual evidence for that? Because they trade with more than just the US and Europe. India and Israel have ties, just as one example. They also have domestic military manufacturing and a robust tech industry. Their tanks are not our Abrams for instance, they use their own, called Merkavas.

Otherwise your belief that the US can just make them stop seems to be based on just a hunch, or maybe something someone told you, or wishful thinking or something. I don't see the reality of it, beyond what certain propagandists say.

I blame Israel because they're the ones doing the killing. People like to point at us "enabling them", and don't get me wrong, I do not approve of the weapon shipments anymore. However, I am aware that if we cut them off, or if we passed the UN resolutions, the killing would not stop.

You do not need thousand pound bombs and 155mm artillery ammo to kill civilians, there are many, many ways to do that, most being even more brutal and indiscriminate.

The UN resolutions so far have been empty words. They "call for" a ceasefire, without actually putting anything in place to force one. Netanyahu is not going to listen to UN finger-wagging, so these would decrease what little leverage we have over Netanyahu without stopping the killing.

All the proposed "solutions" so far would simply remove US culpability, we would be less guilty. However, they would not actually save Gazan lives. Only an actual, enforced cease fire can do that. For that, you have to convince Netanyahu to stop. Somehow. Any ideas on how to actually do that?

Let's not forget social media companies and their algorithms that take advantage of human psychology to drive profits. Not helping.

No, actually I'm going to blame Israel, and specifically Netanyahu and his settler and genocidal fans.

Biden is between a rock and a hard place, no answer he chooses is actually ideal. That just happens sometimes in real life, which is not always easy. Sometimes every answer has some bad consequences.

Why do articles keep pointing the blame "at democrats" like we in the party have some kind of magical control over this?

We can only vote for the motherfuckers that run. If you run, we can vote for you. If you don't run, we can't vote for you. So, who are we supposed to pick?

Dean Philips, the guy that talks about appeasing republicans? No. Just, fuck no.

You, you on the other side of the screen, you should run for office. Then we might have more options.

I mean, you could just send a drone, that's probably cheaper and better for the environment. But I guess it's something interesting for a pilot to do. Gotta stay sharp.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Once you radicalize someone, it's not always so easy to bring them back. They can just migrate to even more hardcore Russian propaganda outlets.

Not my job to agree with people.

I don't know, some analogies are better than others. People that just nod along with all of them are just weak-minded yes men. So, I guess it depends on the analogy.

Lemmy features modlogs, so you can just go check. It's in the sidebar. Instances also have modlogs, so if admins did it, you can check that too.

She's one of the best politicians we have.

So she'll want a strong home stretch blitz. Or were you just trying to shit on dems instead of actually support the best candidate? Sorry, if so.

Fair point. But I do think it is important to protect Lemmy's reputation. It's less about salesmanship, and more about standing up to bad takes and random, misc bullshit.

Agreed. Even in those threads though, in my experience. Even if the op is asking, op is not the only one in the thread. More often than not, people will jump in specifically to badmouth us.

Less about self benefit, more about preservation of data accessibility. Potential self-benefit is a bonus, an extra. Two birds, one stone, nice and efficient. How smart people do things.

No, just pointing out that if the CIA did plenty of dirty work in the past, it would be silly to think that nobody else is doing any today.

Only somewhat populated one I can think of off the top of my head would be using Lemmy from a dedicated Instance like mander or maybe that solarpunk one, and sticking to the local feed.

But memes are tough to escape. The internet almost runs on memes, they're a horrendously efficient form of communication.

I always see a lot of pushback against any alternatives proposed on reddit itself. There's a pretty strong, probably multi-faceted resistance any time anything new is mentioned. So, it's good to keep in mind you will face that, and be prepared with some patience and counter-arguments.

Right, cuz the CIA is the only intelligence agency in the world that fucks around. Obviously.

Simplifies your wardrobe a lot, that's probably my favorite thing about mono-season climates.