CableMonster @ CableMonster @lemmy.ml

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How is he so bad? Be very direct and specific.

The issue is that the corporate media lies to you and shapes our government with lies. They do it over and over and over and for some reason you keep believing them.

I am not in a cult because I am not part of your team or the other team or any team for that matter. When someone claims "trump advocating injecting disinfectant", I would "le me see the video" and then I would see they lied.

Disinfectant or bleach is not important, the part about him advocating for putting it in the body is the important part. And yes the corporate media always lies or misleads about trump, if you could take your teams glasses off you would see this. The issue is you are in a cult and just cant.

This who long thread was about how the media lies, the bleach thing was just an example of how they claimed or implied he said something he didnt say. There are hundreds more example of this, and if you are fixated on the bleach thing then their lying to you absolutely works.

I have no idea what they have tried or what works, again that is not the point. The point is that they claimed advocated for a thing that he did not advocate for, and you believed it and repeated it. They won, that was the entire point, you have been controlled.

Sounds like a big government dream!

We need to backtrack here so you understand the WHOLE FUCKING POINT, its not what trump said its that they lied/mislead about EVERYTHING trump has to say. Do you understand that you believed that trump recommended putting bleach in people because the corporate media lied about it so much that it turned into a reality in your head? If you dont understand that then you are exactly the person that the media is lying so that they can control you.

I’ve seen the video of him claiming a sort of bleach will cure covid.

he genuinely asked what if we injected disinfectant inside people.

Okay so then he did ask a question not made a prescription. Are you able to admit you were wrong about him claiming that bleach injections were a cure?

Please quote from the video the part where he said to use bleach.

I watched the only video I am aware of, did you have a different video? If you dont then you are just repeating propaganda and then trying to gaslight me into agreeing with you.

Its not an ideological statement, it is a comment on the structure of the organizations and how they have to work to survive. Corporations need to do things efficiently or they disappear, the reason large companies are able to be so inefficient is that they are propped up by the government. But the big corporations still have to be more efficient than the other giant companies or their business gets taken.

When it comes to the government they can have irrational requirements and ways of doing things, and since they allegedly are beholden only to the voters (who dont have a clue what is happening) then they can be as inefficient as they want. An example that is non monetary is how the police will investigate themselves and find they did nothing wrong, they only have an incentive to protect themselves and their own people.

I have seen a single video of the bleach thing (where he also talked about putting light in the body), and it was not a recommendation he was asking if they would look into it. If you have a video of him saying people should do it, I would be interested in seeing it, if not then you are just repeating a lie.

I think this is a seperate issue when private corporations build and own roads. I dont know enough about that sort of thing, I was more referring to how the government hires out private companies to create infrastructure instead of having government employees do it.

I used to also, and I understand the issue, but the mega corps will still be more efficient than the government. This brings up the other issue of how the government funds all the tax dollars to large corporations and also props them up with regulatory protections.

Public employees are almost always not the highest quality and tend to be overpaid, why is it bad to have private companies do the work?

Please show me the video where he claims it would cure covid. The video I have seen is him asking question and if they are going to look into things, what is wrong with asking questions?

Examples of direct lies or completely misleading things off the top of my head; russian bounties, pee tapes, wouldnt go to and the memorial because he would get wet, putting bleach in your body for covid, russian collusion, trump says he wants to be a dictator, and more! Another big one - bidens whole campaign started on the "very fine people" hoax.

Which would you like me to engage on in particular?

on the one story you’ve cherry picked?

Lol one story... Dude its hundreds of stories with all the same people repeating the lies or misleading headlines.

I am more than happy to explain what part of your trump stories is misleading or exaggerated, but the problem is that when you are part of a cult (even if you dont get to vote) you wont be be able to hear it. If you have any direct questions I will answer them, but I am not interested in writing a bunch to have you say "nu-uh".

And again, I am not even a trump voter, he is better than the other side, but still not too great.

I get that it sounds like I like the smell of my farts but I am just very rational, which is not always a good trait.

I am not going to vote for trump, and I am not part of his cult, but not being in a cult I can see what you cult is saying and what their cult is saying and I think I am close to what the truth is. The people that told you all the negative things you believe also told you Biden was "sharp as a tack", why do you believe them still?

The big issue here is that you have bought one side narrative completely. From my view all of the things that have been done to trump and also the jan 6th defendents is the real attempt at overthrowing democracy. And then pretending that the trump judges are super bad compared to the democrat appointed judges is just completely biased.