Carnist and carnist apologists should just go back to reddit.
They don't apply concepts like consent or bodily autonomy to conscious beings of their own will. In addition, they do far more damage to the planet and it's inhabitants including humans.
If you want to learn about Veganism or have a good faith discussion about the moral baseline, stick around but otherwise just gtfo.
Yeah, I think derailing the thread with bad faith intentions to redefine Veganism and not answering OP's question is pretty idiotic. Mod thought my comment was mean, but idc.
Yeah it's totally fine to be fascinated with the chemical interactions of plants. This just wasn't the thread to bring it up if we're addressing OP's question in good faith.
What you are describing is reaction to stimuli. You also describe gas releasing from tomatoes. Plants definitely have some form of biological intelligence but Vegans don't care about that and that's my point. Your comment doesn't address OP's question because what you are talking about has nothing to do with Veganism. This is why I got so dang frustrated. So many of these commenters were not in a position to answer OP's question because they don't know what Veganism is or what Vegans value.
Biological intelligence is not the same as having a subjective experience. If there is no subject, there is no one to grant rights to. There is no one ever experiencing pain or pleasure etc. You could at best take an agnostic position on plant consciousness. As we understand it today, consciousness is an emerging property of life with brains/nervous systems. In any case you are probably and hopefully wholly uncaring of tomatoes being harvested, and in that respect it's hard for me to discern your point of discussion as good faith.
I think with today's audience those IP's have a lot more strength than Battletech or Shadowrun. If you think Warcraft or Starcraft exclusivity to an Xbox console won't sell units I don't know what to say.
Rare certainly is an interesting one. They had a dark decade there at Microsoft no doubt. Things are getting better. The studio itself aside I think their IPs are getting decent utilization with the upcoming perfect dark and last gen's killer instinct. They have a lack of banjo for sure. Little shocking at this point. Seemed like the smash inclusion was big enough a hit to see sales.
I'm just hoping to get starcraft and Warcraft spinoffs out of this. Lots of potential with those IP's. Since 3 is never getting properly fixed, Warcraft 4 would also be nice.
It's not just that the novelty has worn off, It's progressively gotten less useful. Any god damn question I ask gets 90,000 qualifiers and it refuses to provide any data at all. I think OpenAI is so terrified of liabilty they have significantly dumbed down it's utility in the public release. I can't even ask ChatGPT to provide a link to study it references, if it references anything at all rather than making ambiguous statements.
Like many of you, this was a much desired phone for me. Now I'm just left wondering how soon their next phone releases. Been too long. If I'm focused on eco friendly I may as well also stick with what I've got until then.
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