Boddhisatva @ Boddhisatva @lemmy.world

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To get him removed from office, you have to first get the House to vote (50%) to Impeach him. That is actually doable. But then the Senate has to hold a trial and somehow get 67 senators to vote to convict him. That would take every Dem and Independent and something like 20 Republicans to vote to convict. I agree with you, but I don't see that happening.

The only other way is by using the 25th Amendment which says, in part:

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Vance and all of Trump's appointed toadies would have to send a letter to the House and Senate saying Trump in not capable of being president. And even if, by some miracle that happened, the next step is for Congress to hold votes in both the House and the Senate needing two-thirds of both houses to declare that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Even if they somehow pulled that off in the House, it would still take 18 or 20 Republican senators to cross over and vote him out.

I just don't see any legislative way out of this. The Republicans in the House and Senate are simply not going to let it happen. They have too much power and no morals.

In his case, he would probably only touch grass as he clawed his way out from 6-feet beneath it.

Johnson only happens if Vance is impeached along with Trump or for some other reason is unwilling or unable to serve as President. If Trump were to be removed from office, Vance would become president and would select a new vice President who would then be next in line for President.

Um, raises hand point of parliamentary procedure; people are suffering and quite literally dying right now. It's already extremely ugly.

The first two times were like a jury declaring a person guilty, and then the judge came in for sentences and said, “eh but did he really do it? I sentence you to… no punishment.”

Not quite. The first two times were like a grand jury returning an indictment. That's the House's part of the equation. They have a vote requiring 50% of members to vote to impeach the president, effectively indicting him. The Senate then has to hold a trial that which takes a 67% vote to convict him and remove him from office.

Saying he has been impeached twice but not removed from office is the equivalent of saying someone has been indicted twice but not convicted. He hasn't yet been convicted.

Shhhh! That's supposed to be a secret plan!

Actually, it is unfair, unfair that anyone is homeless.

You're not wrong and many people cannot afford to chose anything but the cheapest option.

I stand corrected that they were paid. I missed that. In my research to verify that I also learned that it is unknown how the peacekeepers were trained and that they were asked not to carry weapons. That makes two stupid people carrying guns getting a third innocent person killed.

Downvoted for the suggestion that anyone was legally authorized to murder bystanders. That is just a nonsensical statement intended to upset people.

Leavitt also told reporters that Iran “has never been closer to a nuclear weapon.”

"...being dropped on them." she went on in her head.

If you are going to insist on wearing a mask and go to protests like this, rifle in hand, then it's only a matter of time before there's going to be a tragedy. How is anyone supposed to know if you're a good guy when you look just like a bad guy? If Arturo had been carrying concealed, or at least kept the rifle on his back, this wouldn't have happened.

State goons? The peacekeeper was hired by the protest organizers.

Everything old is new again. This is the same shit Dubya's administration claimed in 2003 when they wanted to attack Iran.

A fair point. Between the four, Fred, Donald, José, and Alex, only Alex has not been charged with a crime.

Are putting money in the pockets of billionaires? If yes, then no, you're not shopping local.

When asked why he referred to the senator as "José Padilla," despite his first name being Alejandro, Taylor Van Kirk — a spokesperson for Vance — said "he must have mixed up two people who have broken the law." Van Kirk did not elaborate.

Poor J.D. can't tell one criminal from another. Do you think the president minds when Vance calls him Fred?

One of the problems with social media is that that algorithms they use act as a filter based on your previous clicks. If one never clicks on political stuff, then their feed will rarely if ever show them political stuff. Someone who never pays attention to politics, and doesn't watch the news, could easily remain completely ignorant of major issues unless someone they personally know tells them something or they are personally inconvenienced by a protest.

That is legislation passed by congress. Congress, per the Constitution, has the power of the purse. They decide what federal funds are used for and can put whatever restriction they want on those funds. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy is not granted any such authority by the Constitution and neither is the President.

I don't care what the charges are, as long as he spends the rest of his days in prison.