Bluescluestoothpaste @ Bluescluestoothpaste @sh.itjust.works

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It's so sad, people who were hurt growing up and then rationalize it as that's the way the world is supposed to be. Too hard for some people to admit their parents made some mistakes.

Well sure, and the country did alright for 200+ years before this change. Since then, the student loan industry has become a monstrous disaster.

If you invoke hitler, you already lost the argument.

Now you're getting it!

If you're not trying to trick people, just say what you mean. Just stating something and writing "/s" doesn't do anything to show it's wrong.

And Borat was met with tons of opposition and hate from people who thought he was serious!

They just need to make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy. High earners who can afford their student loans will be dismissed like any bankruptcy court applicant who makes enough money to pay their debts, and the people who are actually struggling will get relief at the penalty of 7 years very bad credit.
Bankruptcy works for every other kind of debt, it was written into the Constitution by the founding fathers, and it's the perfect system designed exactly for problems like the student loan crisis.

No, but they're both turn based rpgs?

You don't write the opposite of what you mean. And Poe's law isn't a problem to be combatted, it's a gift.

Sarcasm comes across much better in person than via text, which I’m sure you agree with.

I completely disagree. Body language betrays your sarcasm much more easily in person. In text is where it's much easier to hide the meaning you are trying to convey and confuse your audience.

It's really not. Satire just isn't for you if you don't want risk being misunderstood. You don't write the opposite of what you mean if you must be understood clearly the first time.

Satire is a necrophile.

It's not that the point is ruined. It's that it's no longer sarcasm. The whole point of sarcasm is that it seems like the message is genuine. Ironically, using /s makes a statement unsarcastic.

But that's the point of sarcasm. Jonathan Swift got lots of death threats by mail after writing "A Modest Proposal," and he expected it! If someone doesn't want to risk being misunderstood, they should not write the opposite of what they mean.

That's the whole point of sarcasm though, that the delivery seems genuine. Don't write the opposite of what you mean if you aren't willing to have some people misunderstand you.

And yes, people who use sarcastic tone in conversation are also missing the point. They also should not say the opposite of what they mean.

Not at all -- it's the people who use /s that are dumb.

Some disgruntled reader mailing them a letter?

Yes! Jonathan Swift received a ton of death threats after writing "A Modest Proposal."

Without it, if your sarcastic enough often enough, you’ll run into people who unironically agree with you on whatever you’ve sarcastically said.

That's literally the point of sarcasm. If you don't want people to get confused, don't write the opposite of what you mean.

Then just don't write the opposite of what you mean. It's not funny or witty or clever to write "Women should all just live in the kitchen, NOT."

Sarcastic tone is stupid.

No, "they" don't need to shut it down, but "they" might want to and that's OK. If we're talking about forum mods, they might use their judgement to decide they don't want their platform to be a space for debating something that threatens the safety of their users.

You want to make your own forum where anyone can debate anything, then absolutely go right ahead. Doesn't mean somebody else can't make a forum they refuse to allow debate on certain issues.