Blue_Morpho @ Blue_Morpho @lemmy.world

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Calling and end to military aid does not mean her earlier statement was a lie.

"I will exert every effort to terminate the war in Gaza, "

That includes military aid. Just because she didn't use the particular words you wanted doesn't make the statement a lie.

I said this was inevitable because Israel was always going to get the priority

Which ignores that Trump caused the problem that made Israel bomb Iran!!!! There was no problem supplying Israel and Ukraine until Trump.

Israel attacked Iran because Trump ripped up the Obama non proliferation agreement with Iran.

Again the reason Israel attacked is because Trump ripped up the Obama non proliferation agreement.

You don't know that.

Iran didn't blame the US or even insinuate that the US was involved.

Stop lying.

The OP did! He claimed that this wasn't Trump's fault. Did you not know you're defending Trump?

This entire argument is that it was inevitable rather than a direct result of Trump's actions.

That's defending Trump. Trump tore up the Iran non proliferation deal.

What's next? "It was inevitable that illegal ICE raids would happen. Biden would have been the same as Trump. Biden would have ended DEI."

??? If you are talking about Kerman, not only did the US not do it, but Biden warned them that they had information there would be a terrorist attack.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Kerman_bombings

Iran didn't blame the US.

I already quoted the npr article that said Trump got more Muslim votes than any other candidate.

purpose of shifting the blame for Harris

I started this because of everyone defending Trump.

Exception? Wiki shows 221 "himself" and 37 herself in the first 20 seasons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Simpsons_guest_stars_(seasons_1%E2%80%9320)

So election statistics and the fact that Trump was endorsed by Muslim leaders are irrelevant because of who reported it? If Jacobin doesn't cover a news story it didn't happen?

One didn't lie about it. Trump lied and got the Muslim vote.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-earns-endorsement-highly-respected-muslim-leaders-battleground-state

National Public Radio reporting election statistics is liberal news. Nice to know who I'm arguing with.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-earns-endorsement-highly-respected-muslim-leaders-battleground-state

but it would have had to be genuine.

Why does it matter that Harris had to be genuine but it's ok for Trump to lie to get those votes?

? There were many Simpson celebrities in the 90's that played themselves. Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Wade Boggs, Bob Hope, Leonard Nemoy...

Do you believe if Harris promised to support Palestine and immediately bring peace, she would have won the election?

I provided proof of one lie having an influence. It wasn't one person's testimonial.

"This year, President-elect Donald Trump received the most support out of any presidential candidate, with 42% of the vote in Dearborn. "

Muslims don't only live in Dearborn.

How is lying to win an election 4d chess?

She could have run an entirely different campaign

That has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she didn't lie. You wanted her to be someone else. That's valid. But she didn't lie about her position on Israel.

Your point is veering on "muslims are too stupid to realize Trump is a Zionist too,"

Trump lied about Palestinians. I provided proof that it was believed and his lies influenced the election.