The reason I’m in lemmy.ml and not some smaller instance is because of problems like the ones showcased here.
Quite a few instances are managed by non-profits which are much less prone to service disruptions, like https://fedecan.ca/en/ for lemmy.ca.
The local account would continue being the primary source of access to the content…
Isn't that contradictory with the users - content separation?
note that having a separate hosting service doesn’t mean that the hosting service must be the one managing access to the content.
That seems contradictory with the previous point. My understanding was that
users would use Lemmy.user accounts to browse content (this is the recommended way to avoid user management for the content instance admins)
mods would use Lemmy.content accounts to moderate communities (users would have to switch to those type of accounts from the first type if they want to start / mod a community)
Exactly. That means instances would not longer have that responsibility. It would be responsibility of the hoster, meaning less pressure for the instance. Once they ban the user, the content would not be shown.
At that point, the content instances would be merely storage. This model is already possible now, but the vast majority of instances host both users and content, because it is more interesting to have users to build a local community than just being a storage server.
If some admins were interested in only being storage servers, you would see more instances not allowing user registrations, but all the 35th most active instances allow them: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
The interesting part is that after it’s triggered, then the process is pretty much automatic.
There have been cases where federation deletion was not processed correctly, so it would add an additional layer of potential issue
What that means is that on top of your Lemmy.user account, you would need a Lemmy.content account that would be able to fully moderate the community as a local account. Users don't like to juggle between different accounts to moderate and participate.
the only thing the content provider would do is hosting
Hosting involves removal of content, which is triggered by actions performed by users.
At the moment, if a Lemmy.world user spams CSAM content everywhere, other admins can reach out to the LW admins, they ban the users and purge the content.
In a users/content model, with Lemmy.users and Lemmy.world still being the content, other admins have to reach out to the Lemmy.users instance, get them banned, then to the Lemmy.world admins to trigger the purge of the content on the communities.
On top of that, it is currently recommended to mod from local accounts, as report federation will be fixed in Lemmy 1.0, not released yet: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3781
The main part of the "admin burnout" comes from the management of users. There isn't really that much to manage on the content part that isn't linked to users.
Complete bans (at the home instance level) would require synchronization between the content provider instance and the authenticator instance.
Mod actions are caused by users comments on content, so the two aspects are closely intertwined, you can't dissociate the content from the users.
At the moment, admins synchronize in a group to deal with toxic users, usually leading to the ban of those users on their home instance. Having a split between two types of admins adds an additional layer that could actually increase the admins workload.
This community is first and foremost a feminist community for men and masc people, but it is also a place to talk about men’s issues with a particular focus on intersectionality
2k subscribers, so at least posting there about the new community can help
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Quite a few instances are managed by non-profits which are much less prone to service disruptions, like https://fedecan.ca/en/ for lemmy.ca.
Isn't that contradictory with the users - content separation?
That seems contradictory with the previous point. My understanding was that
Is this correct, or am I missing something?