BlameThePeacock @ BlameThePeacock @lemmy.ca

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Are you going to get 3 times the current price of the land consistently doing this? Probably not.

Can it increase the price a little bit? Yes.

A lot of it will come down to who can buy the land, if it's just random $10k properties in the woods, you may be able to land some random customers who will pay $30k because you brought it to their attention.

If it's $200k properties you're trying to flip for $600k, it's very unlikely to ever happen.

Cutting the wires will work, but it's already recorded it's location and transmitted that data by the point you get to that point.

There's no way that the self-driving car companies won't require regular check ins on the network to function in self-driving mode. You can't even play many single player video games these days without an internet connection.

Essentially it won't be a self-driving car once you've stolen it, and it may not even be a regular car either because some of the proposed models don't even have steering wheels or pedals. Even if you did crack the software, it's not going to be loaded with any sort of relevant self-driving functionality for <insert 3rd world country where they don't check vehicle registration here>, it won't have maps, it won't be trained on the local signs, traffic lights, road markings, etc. it may not even operate on the correct side of the road.

Why would the onboard software ever allow (or even support the ability) to disable connectivity?

The tracking doesn't even need to happen on the vehicle itself, given that they're likely to use cellular connections the tracking from the cell company can locate it.

My point is that there's no benefit to stealing a self-driving car over a regular car, so why would these gangs switch? None of the self-driving features will work when it can't connect to the network, and none of the extra parts have any sort of resale value separate from their intended use. They may as well continue stealing regular cars.

Canada did it first...

It's already practically uneconomical to so, Canada produces about 4x more Aluminium than the US and the US imports about 80% of the Canadian production.

Canada doesn't have to budge on this one, the US can't just spin up that much Aluminium production in any reasonable time line, they're going to keep importing it and just paying the tariff themselves.

People said the same thing about cars taking over for horses.

People said the same thing about computers.

People said the same thing about the internet.

People said the same thing about cell phones.

Are you removed? Go back and read your own godamn comment.

The Stuxnet worm was created by the US government likely with hundreds of people working on it for half a decade or more, not some random hacker group.

There are ways to protect self cars, giving them a command to drive somewhere isn't inherently dangerous. The commands to send them to a destination will not be able to control HOW the car gets there, that will all be done locally on the vehicle self-driving software. It won't be possible to tell the car "go drive into this building" since the driving software simply won't allow for such a request remotely.

The most impactful thing that hackers could do is tell all the vehicles to pull over and stop where they are, which would cause problems of course, but it's hardly the end of the world. Essentially a form of DDOS attack on cars, but it would be detected almost instantly and likely the vehicles with occupants could just override it locally.

What exactly is a hacker group going to do with a fleet of cars that can certainly still be located by the corporation that owns them since they're literally connected to cellphone (and probably satellite these days) networks all the time. There's not that much value for a hacker in obtaining a self-driving car that can't drive by itself because it's not connected to it's network. The resale value for the fancy sensors and chips inside them is pretty much zero.

Again if people want unattended cars they can do this a lot easier than hacking a massive corporation to get access to them.

Your government passed a law last year to allow it starting in 2026

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2024/10/contents/enacted

The argument you made was that ALL trans women had to be better than Britney Griner for it to be unfair.

I countered by saying if even a single trans women, because of their male puberty development, was better than Britney Griner then it would be unfair.

The entire point of having a women's league at all is to exclude men, specifically because their bodies are vastly stronger when comparing two of the peak athletes in that sport.

If all you have to do is heat something up, you are not cooking.

It counts as cooking when you start needing to prepare and combine ingredients.

Canned soup is not cooking.

Making a grilled cheese sandwich to go along with your canned soup would be cooking though, because it requires preparing bread, cheese, and butter (usually) and then combining then cooking the ingredients in a particular way.

Taking hormones does not undo all of the benefits of male puberty body development. This is science that has been proven.

You simply cannot say that no trans women has an advantage, it's just false.

Given that at least some have an unfair advantage, they should not be allowed to participate in a division created specifically to avoid having to compete against that advantage.

It's that simple.

There's a difference between grabbing data, and controlling physical systems.

Hackers are not regularly taking over power plants or shutting down manufacturing robots.

They are fucking relevant, because you said that trans women need to ALWAYS beat cis women for it to be unfair.

I'm providing an example where in an even more extreme situation where cis men were involved directly, some cis men could lose and the situation would still be unfair.

So your argument that they all had to be better is false. Trans women participating in women's sports if even one of them is better because of their natural doping is an unfair situation.

And I was giving you an example where cis men could both win AND lose to cis women, and it would still be unfair.

We're already in a place with self-driving cars. They are operating as taxis in a half dozen cities in North America already and Waymo is expanding to like 12 cities total in the next year.

It won't happen overnight, but the aren't science fiction at this point, it's just refinements.

Either with their own smaller delivery robot, or buildings will get dedicated delivery robots inside that can receive packages and take them up to particular apartments.

You vastly overestimate hackers abilities.

You say unsupervised, but they have as many cameras and sensors on them than your average military drone at this point. They can (and will) transmit this data live if they detect negative interactions.

It's not like people don't have unsupervised access to cars without people in them right now. People park and leave their cars alone all the time.

If you spend enough money you probably could.

Probably on the order of $10k-100k.

For example if you rent enough billboards across the country to make the national news, or do some other such stunt.