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  • I read your post, so don't take my short response as me not reading through it or understanding your point.

    But that user clearly passed the point where I could ever give them the benefit of the doubt. They're using a clear right wing dogwhistle, and I don't think they're asking it innocently. I don't think they used the keyboard thing as a pretext, but that the question they asked goes above the keyboard thing and reveals how they think about "being censored".

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  • **Nope

    The entire fediverse is built on censorship of thought and opinion because no server is allowed to join the fediverse that allows posts criticizing transgenderism.

    This is a reply I recieved from them. Unless your instance allows transphobia, then maybe yeah, I was wrong, you wouldn't "censor" them. Or maybe you're gonna pretend that "criticizing transgenderism" isn't some obvious dogwhistle, and I hope not.

    It was obvious they weren't just talking about your typical "lemmy.ml is censoring me" post. They also mentionned mastodon censoring them, which to me is a pretty red flag, since mastodon is not usually known for this behavior unless you're right wing adjacent.

    Edit: Fine I'll try spelling it out. If their question was about the lemmy modlog in the keyboard post, why wasn't it mentionned once or given as an example? Why was Mastodon mentioned and why were they giving "transgenderism" as an example?

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  • Mastodon and Lemmy themselves don't offer services. The people who install the app on their servers do. They set up their instance, with their rules and setup. Anyone who doesn't follow their rules isn't welcome.

    But let's say that users have a problem with how instance A is handling it's modding. If they're on another instance B, they could ask their admin to block instance A. If you're on instance A, you can change instances, or better yet, make your own.

    What we tell people that want to join is that there is no centralised server. Unlike reddit, if you get banned there, you have no link aggregator to go to. But if you get banned on Lemmy, you can, and I will repeat myself, change instances or make your own.

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  • Nope, not even you guys are good to their eyes. When will you learn?

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  • Again, not wanting to hear bullshit != censoring. You can just go ahead and make your own instance that flames transgender people just for existing, if that's your thing, but people might find you annoying and rude and might not want to hang out with you.

    Would you consider me blocking you to be censorship, for example? And if not, why would it be different if an entire group blocks you?

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  • That's not the point of the fediverse, and what you're describing isn't censorship. It's more akin to a group of people not wanting to talk to you anymore, so they kick you out of their group. You can always create your own group, but it requires effort and people who want to interact with you.

    If an instance's rules bother you, you could change instances, or better yet, make your own. That's the point of ActivityPub.

    Also I don't think "censorship" would really make a community die (go look at hexbear.net, if you could handle it, for example)

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