Bernie_Sandals @ Bernie_Sandals @lemmy.world

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That's why I said kind of.

Establishment/center right Dem influence on the primary happens through endorsements and media connections. While the actual primary is actually rather free, it's not very fair as the establishment gets the first say over the narrative, though this is weakening incredibly over time with more social media and independent media influence.

About 25 to 50 percent, depending on which Polling Aggregate source you're using for Biden currently. Which would presumably improve with another candidate.

25% From the economist

40% From The Hill

50% From 538

Meanwhile, RFK Jr., the highest polling of the third party candidates, has less than 1% chance of winning enough electoral votes.

However, my original point wasn't that a Biden replacement would do better than RFK or a third party in the general (though they certainly would), but that if you dislike Biden, him being replaced is more likely than a third party candidate ever winning.

I've never met a single person who thinks any of them could actually get the popular or electoral vote, at this point replacing Biden with another Democrat would be far more likely.

The dnc really ought to let voters nominate their own candidates, instead of force feeding us their choice.

They actually do (Kind Of) candidates have to come forward and nominate themselves to the Democratic Party of the individual states after getting a certain amount of signatures from registered Democratic voters from those states.

The biggest hurdle for potential candidates is name recognition and funding for getting those signatures. Even after getting the signatures, it's very hard to challenge an incumbent, like was proven by Dean Phillips and Marriane Williamson.

I'm hardly responsible if the majority of or the leadership of The Party don't align with my views. It is they who have failed us, not the other way around.

Like I said, you're not responsible for their current policies, that would be the Democratic voter base of 30 years ago, but you're responsible for not trying to vote them out and writing off the entire fucking party as the same.

Have fun feeling politically nihilistic and irrelevant though, it sure worked for the CPUSA, the SPA, the SWP and every other third partyist of the past 100 years.

absolutely no say in the matter

You can keep shoving your head in the sand or research and confirm what I've been saying is the truth, that candidates are nominated by candidate choice, signatures, and then a primary vote. Up to you.

Your continued support of the familiar means they'll never change.

Lmfao, yeah? Can I ask how long you've been involved in politics? Or how much you know about American domestic political history?

The Democratic Party and Klu Klux Klan Venn Diagram a century ago would've been essentially a circle, with some weird progressives like Roosevelt on the sidelines. The past century of American political conflict has been one of the Democrats slowly solidifying around socially left issues and the Republicans doing the opposite, solidifying around the right. Both Parties found an economically left wing New Deal consensus after the squabbling of great depression recovery, which lasted basically until Reagan and the creation of a Neoliberal consensus.

That's all to say that the Parties have changed massively over the past 100 years, the Democrats completely switched their position on social and economic issues.

I have been pushing for my part of the Democratic party to be more economically and socially liberal for a decade now, and even in that short time I've noticed immense changes in what the party is willing to accept. A decade ago, rent control advocacy would've had city level Democratic officials criticizing me, and now Biden, a moderate, is advocating for it in debates and in speeches.

The Overton window of the Democratic Party has never been stagnant. It has trended solidly left on almost everything for a century, and you'd have to be ignorant or bad faith to not recognize that.

regardless of who puts forth the candidate

That's the thing, though, no one "puts forth" a candidate except the candidate themselves, parties will sometimes reach out to activists or local party officials for local or state office nominations, but Federal office candidates are almost always decided by candidates themselves getting signatures and putting their name forward.

You're no more responsible for the failures of the party than party establishment officials at the DNC, and likely quite less responsible, but you are responsible for writing off the party as a whole, and thereby abandoning the about 50% of the party that wants to take it in a progressive/anti-capitalist direction.

You know registered Democratic voters pick the nominee, not the DNC, correct?

If you want someone like Bernie to win, you have to fight with the establishment over the Democratic voterbase, and the Bernie campaign never succeeded in winning over the majority of the Democratic voterbase. You can argue this is because the majority of the endorsements and media were on Hillary's side, but that was inevitable, you can't just expect your internal Party opponent to roll over, you have to build up an opposing powerbase within the party and media.

Seems like a lot of socialists and progressives got too disenchanted from Bernie losing to ever accept that, though.

Dude has been a joke for a very long time. Like his illegal campaign for the Dem nomination that was only ever meant to be attention seeking, that subsequently got zero attention for the most recent example.

Russia's built ~16 of these Karakurt-class ships since 2018 lol.

It's taken Russia over 10 years to just build a little over 10 stealth fighters. (And Ukraine has destroyed one)

Meanwhile the Netherlands alone has 24, and the U.S. has over 600.

Russia's high tech side of their military industrial complex is incredibly weak compared to the old USSR days, and even their low tech side is struggling.

You think Bernie Sanders doesn't want all of that, too? You should read his latest book.

He was just being pragmatic when he mostly only talked about the most easily achievable and popular of his possible reforms.

Haiti already warned of America wanting to use Kenya's military to invade Haiti before they did it.

What? The government of Haiti literally requested support from Kenya, which was approved by the UN. What you're saying is almost the complete opposite of what actually happened.

At least 1 month ago I recall seeing articles about it.

Maybe stop reading articles that are for some reason supportive of the drug and sex trafficking gangs that have caused the most recent collapse of Haiti?

Bernie fucking Sanders was a centrist according to the rest of the world.

Just utterly and completely wrong, Bernie would be firmly within the populist/socialist left of Europe, and probably the rest of the world too.

Oh I completely agree, just wanted to point out that AIPAC is homegrown interventionism, not foreign like people tend to think.

How is this not foreign interference?

Because AIPAC doesn't take any foreign money, it's funded entirely from within the U.S.

Isn't that list almost everything though? I can't think of one reform or law we could pass that wouldn't feel like it came too late.

Doesn't mean they're not worth fighting for, or that we shouldn't celebrate them when they pass.

Which government are you talking about? Most land owned by the government in the U.S. is either worthless desert, contracted out to the private sector, or the small bit leftover that's actually used by the federal government.

I lived in a very rural area back then, I know a friend whose family was all watching that debate together in their living room, all hard-core Trump supporters of course. That debate literally made them so sad they turned off the TV mid debate, it broke my friend free from being a MAGA diehard.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Biden campaign saw something like that reflected in polling, even marginally, and is trying to recreate it.

Yeah the recoil is much weaker on those and there's no muzzle flash, and certain cinematic shots just can't be done with them like they could with an actual gun.

The moment who is waiting for exactly?