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  • You mean there are states that aren’t shitholes? I wasn’t aware. Sure, there’s varying orders of magnitude of shittiness, from “the vast majority of the population has been permanently priced out of home ownership, and thousands of people are living in modern day Hoovervilles” at one end, to “thousands or even millions of people live in crippling poverty and having their fundamental human rights violated and restricted daily” At the other, but it’s pretty shitty everywhere for the average American.

  • Maybe the British forcibly separating a long United nation along religious lines wasn’t the greatest idea. Well, unless their goal was to stoke religious animosity and prevent any meaningful coalition forming between the two against the west… Then I’d say it worked pretty well.

  • It was less than a page of “critique” trying to address hundreds of pages of research. It doesn’t even pretend to examine his research thoroughly, and focuses on a single survey done, neglecting the entire argument the book makes, and nearly all data it presents.

  • I’m sorry, the answer we were looking for is, “they’re not gonna get just the wall, they’re gonna get four walls, a roof, clean clothes, good food, education, and quality health care because that's what every human being alive deserves!” ;) really though, thanks for all your modding efforts.

  • Just so you know, Clinton was famously against safety nets, resorting to “welfare queen” propaganda and pushing for the dismantling of the welfare system.

    I’d also argue that we do not value those who work extra hard, but those who most efficiently extract others hard work. The highest paid individuals aren’t the ones doing the terrible jobs, nor the important jobs. There’s actually a pretty solid reverse correlation between how hard one works and how much one earns.

  • It’s really a great book, but if I were going to recommend Graeber to someone for the first time, I’d probably recommend Debt: The First Five Thousand Years. I think if you’re specifically after what Bullshit Jobs is offering, you’ll enjoy it well enough though. lol I just saw this was two years old.

  • They taught me some things, but they left out most of it. I was still taught the pilgrims and Indians thanksgiving in the 90s. In high school they talked about the Trail of Tears, but not allotment and termination periods. We were also taught that the US “tried to civilize” the indigenous.

    We weren’t taught about the attempts to systemically murder and enslave them. The towns destroyed, the crops burned, all were left out. We did learn about the eradication programs for the Bison, but that was presented as an aberration rather than the norm it had already been for decades by that point.

    I’ve not met anyone who’s heard about this letter from Washington to Major General John Sullivan, or the policies around it.

    The expedition you are appointed to command is to be directed against the hostile tribes of the six nations of Indians, with their associates and adherents. The immediate objects are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible…I would recommd. That some post in the center of the Indian Country should be occupied with all expedition, with a sufficient quantity of provision; whence parties should be detached to lay waste all the settlements around, with instructions to do it in the most effectual manner; that the country may not be merely overrun but destroyed …It should be previously impressed upon the minds of the men when ever they have an opportunity, to rush on with the warhoop and fixed bayonet. Nothing will disconcert and terrify the Indians more than this… But you will not by any means, listen to any overture of peace before the total ruin of their settlements is effected…Our future security will be in their inability to injure us; (the distance to wch. They are driven) and in the terror with which the severity of the chastizement they receive will inspire them… When we have effectually chastised them we may then listen to peace and endeavour to draw further advantages from their fears.

    Residential schools were mentioned in passing, but not their lasting legacy. Any missteps that were presented were always justified as the US trying to the do the right thing and just missing the mark. That things like that could never happen again. As if the Americans showed up, had a few fights, and then the Indians just moved into reservations and everything was peachy.

    Source:

    https://aigenom.org/document/washingtons-letter/

  • I’m sure many families in the west did. I don’t know the heritage on my mothers side, but she is white, and goes back at least to the 1800s in the US, so I can’t imagine I haven’t in someway benefitted from allotment or other genocidal policy of the US Gov. I don’t think any living individual is responsible for anything they didn’t directly contribute to, don’t get me wrong, but I think its important to recognize the immense privilege certain classes of people have had historically, and the immense lack of privilege other classes had, and how those privileges translate into systematic injustices in the present day that we should work to correct.

  • Yeah it was pretty surreal the first time she told me. So many stories she tells me. She’s pretty sure the cops killed her uncle in Utah, and her life is filled with MMIW(Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women). I’m indigenous, but separated from my culture because my family wanted my father to grow up as white as possible so he would have a chance in this country, so I have been privileged in my experiences, despite my heritage.