You have to have some system where every vendor from the taxi driver in wellington to the chinese supermarket in auckland to the stand selling noodles in singapore can take your money and give you what you want. You think this can be done with a mom and pop operation? You think it can be done without a centralised system?
People talk about how crypto can solve all this but the same people can't agree on what crypto to use and have no idea what the transaction rate of global payments are or the fact that transaction costs in most crypto payments are outrageously high.
He comes off as a stereotypical white rich fratboy from all those teen movies. Basically a total selfish asshole who likes to hurt other people for fun.
I am glad for you that you can be 100% confident about what will happen in the future!
Yes I am 100% confident that we will not upend capitalism just like you are 100% confident the world will not emit any CO2 by 2050.
We’ve been discussing whether society as a whole can do anything about climate change, and you’ve been arguing that there’s absolutely nothing we can do.
You can do whatever you want. It won't undo the damage and it won't help.
First, that parts not true. Emissions in 2020 dropped around 7%. It was largely due to COVID lockdowns, but still shows it’s possible.
Did the global emissions drop or did the rate of increase drop?
And what makes you think that because something has never been done before it can’t be done now?
Because the mechanisms that caused the problem are still in place and you aren't going to upend capitalism anytime soon.
he people with the money (e.g. fossil fuel giants) would absolutely love for us to do nothing, because they’ll be able to keep raking it in.
No they want you to do stuff and take responsibility so they don't have to. There is a reason you think the burden is on you and me instead of the corporations and the governments.
If we bring emissions down to near zero by around 2050, things will be way better than they could be.
What makes you think that's even possible. There has not been one year in the entire history of mankind where global carbon emissions were less than the previous year. How do you think we will get to zero.
I don't see why there would be any ethical concerns. An app that detects your heart rate has been higher than normal and asks you a series of questions to diagnose why would be far superior to you not even noticing the problem until the day you pass out behind the wheel right?
Where is the scientific evidence that says it’s too late and there’s nothing we can do?
The collection of studies which show that all the predictions of the IPCC so far have underestimated both the magnitude and the velocity of climate change.
This has nothing to do with trust. They put out forecasts and we know with 100% certainty that all of their forecasts underestimated how much warming there was going to be and how fast.
Why would you give them your blind trust after such a performance?
Do you really believe they were wrong in all of their previous forecasts but now they are right?
And to counter your disgusting accusation that I am anti science:
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is an intergovernmental body of the United Nations. It's not "the climate scientists". It's a political body and
it's obvious that it's white washing what their scientists are telling them and bowing to political pressure.
So fuck off with your insult and calling me a science denier.
The IPCC has been drastically underestimating the rates and magnitude of climate change in all of their forecasts. It’s clear they are putting politics and PR above science in order not to panic the population.
I just don’t trust them to represent the actual science in the matter.
The only credible solution on the horizon for a small country like ours is AI. I am deadly serious. An AI tied to your smart watch or health monitor can literally observe you 24X7 and catch many problems before they occur. One AI can be the first line of defence for all of NZ. Also AI can answer many question online for people who are worried about various symptoms. Even is the answer is "make an appointment with your GP".
We need more lower level tiers in our system like A&E too. Clinics where people can walk into 24X7
I disagree. I don't think .1 degree matters and I don't think there is anything we can do to cool the earth by .1 degree or even prevent another .1 degree rise.
It's truly too late. Even we got to carbon zero tomorrow the carbon in the atmosphere right now is going to have devastating impact for years to come.
Our only hope is that we somehow missed a feedback mechanism and it kicks in.
More than that it's too late now to do anything anyway. We are not going to be able to prevent catastrophic climate change and there is a very real chance we are going to go through a world wide age of suffering and pain for most humans on this planet towards the end of my life span. Luckily I will be dead by the time civilisation collapses but chances are nobody will be able to take care of me in my old age and my end is not going to be pleasant.
I mean there are only a handful of people here.