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  • It’s very simple. Our two countries have a reciprocal extradition treaty.

    1. Does an extradition treaty dictate that an armed raid take place?
    2. Can China extradite me because I broke Chinese law?

    If the answer to 2. is no then I have more to worry about the US than China.

    We don’t have an extradition treaty with China. We do with the US. This isn’t hard to understand.

    So what you saying is that I have nothing to worry about when it comes to China coming after me because I broke Chinese laws.

    Are you suggesting that a country that has minorities in concentration camps, has waged cultural war on others, actively exploits poor nations, tracks and watches their entire population, domestically and abroad, locks up political opponents, disappears people critical to the government, detains foreign citizens and actively tries to subvert democracy in other countries is as bad as the US?

    Oh that was a surprise. I was sure you were going to say "as bad as China" at the end of that.

    Happens all the time does it?

    yes it does.

    I must have missed all those drone strikes in NZ, the UK and the EU.

    They do what they call "extraordinary renditions" in those countries. The US agents break down your door, put a bag over your head and ship you off to some island to be tortured.

    When has that ever happened here?

    Hasn't happened here yet that we know of. But it has happened in many other countries.

    Man you have wildly missed the mark here. I never said I think he deserves to be a criminal, only that he is. He IS a massive international criminal because he has, no matter how dumb they are, broken many international laws.

    No he is not a massive international criminal. No other nation has charges against him. But I get it you completely swallowed the right wing propaganda and think he is some sort of an international criminal mastermind who totally deserved to get raided.

    All this is such a stupid argument anyway, because EVEN IF the US is so much worse than China, MY POINT STILL STANDS. I am allowed to not want China to track me through my phone, even if I allow the US to do it (as you claim).

    You are allowed to do whatever you want no matter how racist or irrational it is. You are convinced the Chinese are going to get you, grab you and make you a prisoner or something and you believe the USA would never do anything like that to a NZ citizen despite the fact that the USA has done that and you told me we don't have an extradition treaty with China.

    I mean you sound like raving paranoid maniac.

    I honestly have no idea what your problem is.

    Right back at you. Why do you praise the USA so highly?

  • But what he did is illegal here just as well as in the states.

    Was he charged here?

    What is your point? Do you own a massive piracy platform? If not, it’s not really comparable to you or I is it?

    Anybody could become a target by breaking a US law.

    No, but they could potentially detain me if I travel through there if I regularly bad-mouth the regime.

    I am not talking about that. Would the NZ police raid your house and arrest you if China accused you of a crime? We know they would if the USA accused you of a crime.

    I really don’t get you mate. Are you saying that the US, a country that actually has laws and is not a dictatorship, is worse than an actual dictatorship with a long history of abuse.

    Yes I am. Being a democracy has nothing to do with anything.

    . I do not have to worry about the US disappearing me if I say bad things about Biden.

    They could kill you with a drone strike.

    There is a small, but measurable, risk that this can happen if I badmouth the CCP and then travel to certain countries.

    The USA will kill you right here if they want.

    Once again, asking another authority to arrest a massive international criminal is not the same as disappearing normal everday people because they said a bad thing about Winnie the Pooh.

    LOL. You really drank a lot of right wing kool aid if you believe Kim Dotcom wa s a massive international criminal.

  • No, you’re right, he is charged with criminal copyright infringement, money laundering, racketeering and wire fraud.

    He wasn't charged with anything in NZ.

    More than the US, yes. Why? Because of the reasons I’ve outline elsewhere: the US, as bad as it is, still has some laws and balances it must navigate.

    Do you think if China accused you of copyright infringement NZ police would raid your house?

    I have lived and worked in China, so I am absolutely certain there is a file on me somewhere (I had a nice chat with a “totallynota” member of the CCP at my a company over drinks one night when he offered that they keep an eye on every foreigner in the country.

    And you are convinced the NZ government would do the bidding of the Chinese if the Chinese government decided to come after you right?

  • Well yes, I suppose it is the workers and management who are cutting corners. What’s your point?

    So you hate all the people who work in all the companies in China.

    No, they are trying to save a buck. T

    No they are trying to kill you. They know they are going to kill every person who buys a chinese car. You said it yourself. Chinese cars are not safe because people who work in Chinese companies are building cars that will kill the people who buy them.

    They aren’t sitting around, rubbing their hands with glee and laughing about how many kiwis they will kill.

    Of course not. They sell cars all over the world and are going to kill every person who buys a chinese car anywhere in the world.

    Let me give you an example. There was a scandal in 2008 where a company manufacturing baby formula was adding chemicals so that lab tests would show it had higher protein count. The chemical led to kidney damage in infants, with over 50,000 being hospitalized.

    So yes then. The people who work in all chinese companies are just like these people and all products made in china are just like this baby formula. All chinese products will kill or make people sick because chinese people who work in those companies want to kill the people who buy those products right?

  • Copywrite infringement is illegal in most countries, including here.

    He wasn't charged with copyright infringement.

    but I’m not worried about the Big Bad US Government coming after me.

    But you are worried about the big bad Chinese government coming after you.

  • I have empathy for many people.

    Do you? Even about Palestinians and Yemeni and Saudi Arabians?

    Disagree. You should spend time in Asia and talk to the people there, follow the news, etc. You might learn something.

    Disagree all you want. The fact that NSA has software in all routers and hard drive firmware and sim cards has been widely reported.

  • Companies in China regularly cut corners.

    You mean the people who work in those companies right?

    I don’t think they are actively trying to kill me, I never said that. I said I don’t trust that they are made as they say they are.

    But if they are cutting corners they are actively trying to kill you.

    I don’t trust that the vehicle I buy is the same as the one that was tested by encap, or was sent to the regulators to ensure it complied.

    So what you are saying is that they people who built this car were actively trying to kill anybody who drove the car.