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This is fixed and will not be a problem soon. It's our emoji but they show up big on other instances instead of emoji sized.

Nah it definitely won't lol. But there's gonna be those times people link it and you're gonna get annoyed by it otherwise.

One day peertube will figure out peer to peer at large scale and then everything will change.

David Glantz' When Titans Clashed: How the Red Army Stopped Hitler and Richard J. Evans trilogy are lib but pretty good reading. Libcom also has a pretty good list of worthwhile reading: https://libcom.org/article/world-war-ii-reading-guide

This topic comes up so often that I have this on copy-paste for it. It's incredibly annoying how much learning history from reddit comment sections and memes have managed to fill people's brains with nonsense and without countering it wherever it comes up that revisionism will only perpetuate and spread.

I'm sure you're trans or gay. But you don't support LGBT rights.

What the fuck is wrong with you.

You actively undermine actual activists doing real work to support those rights

Spoken like a person who has never read a single page of any of Leslie Feinberg's books, which were instrumentla in getting to where we are as a movement today.

What org are you actually in? What organising are you actually doing? Anything at all? You talk about "support" but what are you actually DOING? Posting on the internet? A lot of us are real world activists, union organisers, I literally worked AT Stonewall for a year. What have you actually done? It's incredibly weird that you would speak like this to people you know literally nothing about.

This is historical revisionism. The soviets did absolutely everything they could to try and convince France and the UK to take action against Hitler but they were hoping Hitler would attack the USSR.

The ACTUAL historic timeline is like this:

1: The United States Bourgeoisie bankrolled the rise of fascism in Europe.

2: The bourgeois leaders of England, France, Poland, Finland and other Western European nations either ignored, enabled, or appeased Hitler's worst behavior in the buildup to WW2.

3: The bourgeois leaders of these countries, England in particular, pushed for disastrous bilateral security arrangements which created a domino effect leading to war, while ignoring the USSR's suggestion of collective, anti-fascist security arrangements.

4: The bourgeois leaders of these countries pursued a policy not of containing fascist aggression, but of diplomatically isolating the USSR, in the hopes that Hitler would go East and carry out an anti-communist genocide on their behalf.

5: The bourgeois leaders of these countries, having ignored or stalled collective security proposals from the USSR, actively made bilateral non-aggression pacts with Hitler before Molotov-Ribbentrop was signed, making the USSR the last in a long line of nations to sign non-aggression pacts with Hitler, after the USSR's collective security proposals fell through.

6: The USSR only signed Molotov-Ribbentrop to buy time. The USSR only invaded East Poland to prevent a German front from forming right at the Soviet border. This is because attempts to make mutual security arrangements with Poland fell through. The Soviets only moved into the region after the existing government had literally fled the country, leaving it ungoverned. 2 million jews in eastern poland were saved from the nazis by this action.

7: The USSR tried to purchase a strategic corridor of land from Finland that the nazis could easily use to invade the USSR. The USSR not only wanted to legally purchase this land from Finland, but to trade Finland more acres of land in exchange. i.e. an asymmetrical trade that would have ultimately benefited Finland. Finland refused because the fascist leadership of Finland wanted to see Germany invade the USSR through this strategic corridor. This led directly to the Winter War. The Finnish lost the winter war but used their intelligence that they gathered during it to collaborate with the nazis.

8: When the North Atlantic allies finally teamed up with USSR after their strategy of appeasing Hitler backfired, they immediately attempted to make asymmetrical security arrangements that would have obligated the USSR to commit far more troops and resources to the war than any other ally, essentially using the USSR as a shield against the very fascist powers they had spent the better part of a decade appeasing. The British in particular kept stalling on arrangements and pretending to be confused.

9: When the war was over the North Atlantic allies, led by the USA, who came out of the war richer than any other country on Earth, immediately committed to rehabilitating nazis, blaming the USSR, who was decimated by the war, for causing the war, and created NATO to begin encircling the USSR, 6 years before the creation of the Warsaw pact.

10: The North Atlantic allies immediately set to using the Marshall plan to rebuild the fascist German, Italian, and Japanese economies, indebting them to the United States, and orienting them towards anti-communist policy.

11: The North Atlantic allies to tried to use the Marshall plan as a proto-IMF to privatize and deregulate the economy of the war-torn USSR, and open it up to foreign capital. That the USSR rejected this was framed as aggression and used as a justification for beginning the cold war.

But hey, don't just take my word for it, or this rough outline of what is contained in well regarded books (I implore you to read some). How about we read Albert Einstein's words spoken at the time these events actually occurred?

A lot to unpack in this speech but the basics of what Einstein says are:

1. The USSR made all efforts to stop the war happening.
2. The western powers(UK, France, US, etc) shut the USSR out of European discussions and betrayed Czechoslovakia.
3. Molotov-Ribbentrop was an unhappy last resort that they were driven to, that the western powers were attempting to drive the nazis into attacking the USSR and that's why they would not help the USSR stop them.
4. The USSR supported everyone while the other powers (UK, France, US, etc) strengthened the nazis and Japanese.

The appointment of Hitler as Germany’s chancellor general, as well as the rising threat from Japan, led to important changes in Soviet foreign policy. Oriented toward Germany since the treaty of Locarno (1925) and the treaty of Special Relations with Berlin (1926), the Kremlin now moved in the opposite direction by trying to establish closer ties with France and Britain to isolate the growing Nazi threat. This policy became known as “collective security” and was associated with Maxim Litvinov, the Soviet foreign minister at the time. The pursuit of collective security lasted approximately as long as he held that position. Japan’s war with China took some pressure off of Russia by allowing it to focus its diplomatic efforts on relations with Europe.

They use their supposed support of LGBT rights

This is fucking offensive. You're telling me that I and thousands of others are faking being trans or gay? You realise how this comes across right? Who is supposed to be the disgusting one here?

If you think we spent 3 years pretending to be queer just to fuck with you you're out of your mind. We've been here the whole time having a really nice time, you people are the new ones to this space bringing vile things like this to it.

I'm not gonna ask what opinions you hold that you're afraid to air in public.

Lmao

It has existed for 20 years just fine.

You people leap to the defence of billionaires making even more money any chance you get. Gobbling up that boot.

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You're welcome.

What are you talking about? Liberals post about the people they want to die all the time, you've just normalised them. Go mention homeless people in the San Francisco subreddit and watch all the liberals turn into hitler in seconds. Don't get me started on what happens when you mention Roma people to european liberals. Or what happens in literally every single thread on China.

Besides, we're not talking about assassinating people. We'll put the billionaires through our courts beforehand just like you guys put poor people through your courts don't worry.

Come chat to us more then. Jesus would have done the same as us, he chased the money lenders out of temple by beating them with a whip.

A long winded manifesto justifying mass state executions for political enemies.

Oh my god I thought you wanted to act in good faith.

I literally just showed you that the description of what we want to do is literally already what states currently do, what Berlin has voted to do and will soon carry out. If you don't understand that the only difference here is the choice of language then I urge you to re-read what I wrote, many times. I have nothing more to say to you, and will not respond further to someone so clearly participating in bad faith.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. No, you did not make the attack.

However, it seems that things like "Your kulak grandparents deserved to die" are accepted and supported on Hexbear, as long as it doesn't draw undue attention. Except your user forget their "time and place" for airing the dirty laundry. This garbage is not a free exchange of ideas; this a few steps away from actually beheading the non-believers. Just as I would support defederating from other extermist hate instances, Hexbear needs to go.

Generally speaking yes. The Kulaks hoarded grain for their profit causing massive famines that killed millions of people. The important thing to understand here is that "Kulak" is not a race, it means wealthy farm owner, they were rich owners of large amounts of farmland that hoarded grain resulting in what was a overly forceful collectivisation process, BUT this process is often defended by socialists because (and I'm speaking generally) that most of the kulaks hoarded grain and were certainly responsible for people starving to death. Not all of them, but most.

It's a statement that you need to understand quite a lot of different things to properly parse.

ChestRockwell: when I say “landlords are evil and deserve to die or surrender their assets to the collective” what I’m describing is a particular set of actions. It’s not different from having an opinion on if murderers deserve capital punishment.

I see absolutely zero value in this "other viewpoint". There is really no legitimate debate here.

I'm not sure what problem you have here. The state says "hand it over" and if the property isn't handed over willingly then the state uses guns to force it to happen. We already do this, it's called expropriation. The population of Berlin recently voted to expropriate all property from landlords. What is the problem here?? If the landlords of Berlin do not hand over that property then they will be taken by people with guns. That's how states work.

I understand that you might not have seen it put in this kind of extremely blunt words before. But that comment is literally just saying "they can hand it over or they can die" which is frankly no different to how states operate currently. If these landlords in Berlin don't hand it over they will be beaten into a pulp by police, and if they continue to resist they will be killed in the process. This is a blunt and explicitly accurate description of the process of property expropriation.

I think the difference between socialists and liberals here is that we speak of these mechanism in very blunt terms, whereas liberals have normalised hiding the violence of the state behind layers of extrapolation. This makes what socialists describe bluntly sound different to what liberals are used to, even when it is a violent act that liberal states carry out all regularly. We simply don't shy away from describing these mechanisms accurately, they should be described accurately, the violence of the state should not be hidden, especially because our goal is to eventually eliminate states altogether BECAUSE they commit such terrible violence.

Let me put this another way. What happens when you default on payments for your home? The bank shows up with the cops. You are forced to hand over your property, and if you refuse then the state gets violent with you. Same story except in reverse - in service of capital instead of the collective.

Sorry what? Vile and repugnant? Attacked? I just wrote out a very long and thought out response on what the issues are with lemmy's design that are causing this. Nobody was attacked in my response, nor was it vile or repugnant. You are assuming the worst of me here and then trying to make something of it instead of responding to my actual words. I don't usually make this request because usually people respond to me in good-faith, but if you're going to respond to me please quote me and respond in-line to my actual words, or don't respond to me at all. I see this as the only way to get you to speak to my actual words rather than to whatever it is you're making up in your head about me.

I think this view is commonplace here.

There is a problem with Lemmy itself that several of us have been discussing, and it's that it's hard to tell when you're on someone else's instance sometimes.

This is caused by a few factors, for one other instances look identical to your own instance when viewed via your own instance, no unique customisations tends to lead people to not even realising they're in a different space.

And the second problem is that if you engage in a different instance, but then respond via your inbox, it's easy to forget that those inbox messages are a different instance and not your own.

These two problems are longer-term problems in user behaviour that lemmy should look into designing around. I think what we need is something like reddit's old custom css, allowing communities to feel more unique and giving visual identifiers to users so that they IMMEDIATELY realise they're in a different space and get the mental prompt to code-switch to the behaviour relevant to that particular community. I don't behave the same on Hexbear as I behave on some other lgbt spaces for example, I code-switch in those spaces. I'm sure absolutely none of us behave the same way we behave online as we do in the workplace, we code-switch. Finding ways to get people to code-switch better between their home instance and a foreign-federated-instance should be a priority. It will help promote better federation harmony.

I think that the same is true in the opposite direction too though. I think several users complaining about Hexbear behaviour have stepped into Hexbear's instance, received the full Hexbear experience, and then talk about it as if it wasn't something that they opted into by coming onto Hexbear. This is again an issue with identifiability of being on Hexbear itself, it works in both directions.

At the end of the day Hexbear users are VERY reasonable if you're talking to people from Hexbear in good-faith. The key is that term though, real good-faith engagement is rewarded with good-faith behaviour discussion. Sometimes you'll get someone in a shit mood perhaps, but people are human and understanding that this happens is very important to cultivating the longterm happiness of small communities. People have to learn to let certain things go like when others have had a shit day or whatever and not hold that against an entire instance. This goes for Hexbear users when criticising Lemm.ee too, I've seen some unfair characterisations of everyone on lemm.ee as racist and I don't think that's true, just that there are some racists and some transphobes and so on who will need to be culled over time as the community develops and matures. Hexbear itself has had years to mature as a community and get rid of those problems, so Hexbear users can be a little uncharitable when it comes to other servers that haven't had the kind of events that solved these problems for us years ago.

I don't speak for Hexbear though. I am not an admin, just a long time user with a lot of trust in our team and a lot of love for our userbase.

"For all we know" is a cop out. You're giving american cops the benefit of the doubt when they have explicitly demonstrated that you should never ever do that.

I was already having a conversation with Sun over PM when he made the post. Which is why I was one of the first here. We've been talking for several days and generally having a nice time.