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  • This kind of attitude just means more conflict because Israel is never going to leave that land.

  • Which is why the Palestinians need to recognise the writing on the wall decades ago and pushed to settle somewhere else where it isn't a lost cause. They can't just keep turning their people into combatants and not expect to be suppressed for it.

    Israel isn't going anywhere, it will take more than the Middle East to force them and even then, they already have nukes.

  • Typical Reddit exchange recreated on Lemmy.

  • The have not secured the safety and security of their people, though. What their decades of oppression has bought them is continuous warfare.

    Oh yes, what reason do they have to not intensify that effort militarily now? They aren't going to look for peace to solve this anytime soon.

    So doubling down on the approach of assigning collective blame to a whole population for the actions of some.

    I can blame the whole Palestinian population of the Gaza Strip when Hamas is what they voted for, democratically.

    So you keep arguing for massive war crimes of a level too extreme even for the far-right Israeli government, in other words.

    I am an online commentator. Do I look like I hold sway over their policies? This is just the outcome that I expect Israel to pursue, given that the Palestinians have been so belligerent.

    False. It takes the will and the courage to out the terrorists amongst them to the Israelis so that the terrorists will be hindered and slowly wiped from prominence.

    Ah, so you just want them to be quislings and collaborate with their own oppressors. When has that ever worked again, remind me? This is nothing but an excuse to justify your support for continued oppression.

    And so I see that you support terrorism. A shame.

    That is the risk you run when you oppress a population for decades. But if that were to happen, at least they would actually have a moral leg to stand on. Now they do not.

    And so Israel is justified to be worried about the risk, because you handwaved it for them because "they would deserve it".

    So to make this clear: You're regretful Israel is unable to carry out what would be one of the worst crimes against humanity since World War 2? Something which would reach stage 8 of Stantons 10 stages of Genocide?

    If you could relocate these troubled Palestinians somewhere that they can form a new state without all this constant conflict - without breaking up families, I will call that a win because they would have a chance to have a future in autonomy rather than little while in oppression.

    It isn't a humanitarian failure if done right, just don't scatter them to the world like refugees. It's not that hard to avoid "genocide".

    And besides, the Israeli goodwill is running out.

    Well, yes, gross human rights violations for decades do eventually tend to piss people off.

    I do actually mean that the Israel's patience has run thin on being amicable with the Palestinians. I don't know what meaning you had in mind.

    Calling crimes against humanity "just". So much for caring about the millions of innocents you casually are arguing for harming.

    The Palestinians started the conflict before the independence of Israel, and they lost even with the aid of the Arab League. If that isn't a lost cause, I don't know what is. It's only just that Israel be given the peace that it has earned, multiple times over.

    If you don't like it, the Arab world is free to try their luck again. It's better when Israel's enemies take off their mask so that they can openly wipe the floor with them.

  • You do know that each time, the Palestinians are the ones with the larger death toll and the disadvantage in technology and equipment, right?

    The "Zionists" are on the right side of history in no other means than the fact that they are surely going to outlast whatever the Palestinians has in store.

  • Clearly they're only happy and peaceful with themselves. I wonder why they refuse to move when they're so clearly unhappy with the communities that surround them.

  • More people will die until they stop resisting. More oppression will happen when they do more barbaric things in the name of resistance.

    The Palestinians are on the losing end. The Israelis aren't any closer to defeat.

  • Palestinians don't offer peaceful integration either, since they like to resist so much as a group that Israelis don't know who they can trust.

  • 99.9% were to suddenly decide they trusted Israel would treat them fairly if only they stopped fighting, that would not stop the remaining 0.1%.

    What matters is that they must unequivocally reject Hamas, and work with Israel to eradicate these factions as best they can so that Israel can trust their populace to not harbor terrorists. Only then can the Israeli leadership end the restrictions placed upon the Palestine territories that seek to prevent the inflow of arms and rocket artillery to Hamas.

    It is not an illogical act that Israel has done to secure the safety and security of their people.

    ... nor should they entertain the idea that Palestinians are being sincere in co-existing with Israelis.

    With the recent artillery attack by Hezbollah, I don't think there is much question as to where the Palestinian people stand with regards to the Hamas attack on Israel.

    Israel has created a population where sufficient numbers of people feel they have nothing to live for. There is no realistic scenario here where the insurgency ever stops unless Israel commits total genocide or seeks a negotiated settlement including giving substantial concessions irrespective of whether or not they think they can trust any of the parties.

    Israel does not owe the Palestinians a good outcome. If they keep testing Israel, there is no limit to what Israel can do short of mass-killing genocide. Displacement is the best outcome in an Israeli victory.

    Palestinian people as a whole have zero power to end this because it'd require the total agreement of each and every one of five million individuals.

    False. It takes the will and the courage to out the terrorists amongst them to the Israelis so that the terrorists will be hindered and slowly wiped from prominence.

    Israel on the other hand has the power to end this, because on their end it only requires the agreement of the state to dial back the oppression enough that support for groups like Hamas loses support, and then negotiate an end to it.

    Or perhaps Hamas will benefit from the reprieve in state suppression, and use the opportunity to import more arms, equipment, and training from Arab countries and bide their time.

    As it is what you're suggesting here would be a severe violation of international law, a crime against humanity, a violation of a number of UN decrees, and would violate Israeli law as well

    Which is why I said it would be so much easier if it could be done. It regretfully can't be done which is why there's so much conflict up till this day. The keyword is "if".

    And besides, the Israeli goodwill is running out. I wonder if they might just throw caution to the wind and just do it, given how right wing their government is getting. It would be just, and there will be popcorn in the aftermath and subsequent war for sure.

  • If the Palestinians were actually interested in stopping their oppression, they would stop trying to fight an insurgency against the Israelis. As it is, they are a security threat, and for good reason.

    I don't see why Israel should give quarter to Hamas now, nor should they entertain the idea that Palestinians are being sincere in co-existing with Israelis.

    It would be so much easier if Israel just considered them as the enemy, and throw them out of the territory of Israel as they wished. It's only right for a bunch of sore losers. Let them resist from outside the territory of Israel proper, and seek help and refuge from their Arab "allies".

  • Palestinians lost the wars. Multiple wars. At this point there really isn't a point in contesting against Israel when they can integrate with Israel peacefully instead.

  • You can tune down the power draw yourself and get that efficiency you need.

    Besides that, you should buy AMD Radeon. They are the ones with a reasonable production strategy to lowering die cost and also have the lower price on their cards.

  • Well, this whole thing would have ended much sooner if it weren't for the Arab League. They used the Palestinian people against the Israelis even as they kept losing.

    The Palestinians are probably not that bad of a people, but it doesn't help that they keep making armed struggles for a lost cause when they can just make peace on their loss.

  • The whole reason why other Islamic (Arab) countries don't accept Palestinians is so that they retain their "rightful" claim to lands annexed by Israel from the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

    The Palestinians did it to themselves that they couldn't live peacefully with the Israelis back then and should accept the outcome of the war as a failing of the Arab League and their resistance.

    Besides, you can't deny that the Arab world owes some debt to the Palestinians to accept their refuge since it was the Arab League that lost all those attempts to retake Palestinian lands (amongst other things), and yet they don't do it.

    The religious aspect of all this is just secondary to the secular reason.

  • No, driving cuts travel time in half compared to public transport during off-peak hours.

    The point of owning a car in Singapore is the flexibility in reaching a destination without the need to navigate the public transport system and still needing to walk the last bit of distance.

    That being said, it's not that much more painful to use public transport over vehicular transport and you can live without owning a vehicle.

  • The conclusion is brain dead. Can anyone even confirm that SpaceX is losing more satellites than they're launching?

  • I will play devil's advocate and argue that it's just more convenient the same way a urinal is convenient. Not sitting down saves time. That's all.

  • Come to Singapore, we have the Indian culture (among others), and we're the diametric opposite of India where it comes to safety in all aspects. 😉

  • Nuclear works, and it works well enough that operators retire reactors because of age, not because of mishap or cost.