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I never tried to prove God to you. Trying to prove the existence of God is a foolish undertaking. I, quite frankly, don't care what you believe. I've only tried to point out to you that people have plenty of reasons to believe in God that science can't provide.

You making ignorant ad hominem attacks doesn't make your bigotry any less transparent. It's only a comment on you that you've ostensibly spent so much time discussing things that are close to people's hearts without developing a shred of empathy or understanding.

You don't get to force me into the discussion you want to have by trying to bully me. Your opinion isn't going to bait me. I'm comfortable with having made the point I wanted to make.

You are confusing reasons with proof. Most believe because they choose to. Because believing in God gives them meaning and purpose, and a drive to be better, to do better. And because they have had personal experiences that lead them towards belief.

The proof for them is in the effects that faith has had on them. "By their fruits" and all that. Not far different to the "proofs" of dark matter.

Though it's very ironic that you stereotype people of faith, and think I'm the one who needs to meet more of them.

First of all, none of those questions except the first ask why they believe, and I've never heard a person of faith answer that way.

If you enter into a conversation with the intent of attacking, you shouldn't be surprised you don't get good answers.

Everyone believes in something that they can't objectively prove, even if it's just the love of their family. It gives our lives meaning.

Asking a bunch of non-religious people is nothing but a circle jerk.

People believe in religion for a variety of reasons. I believe in what I believe in because I've had personal experiences, and because it gives me a way to be better than I am.

Science can't answer any "why." It can explain how and what, but it can't give meaning. If someone thinks it does give meaning, they have turned it into a religion.

Nothing gets between me and the best part of the day.

Some people who claim to be Christian, do. But hate is hardly limited to Christianity. It's not a Scotsman fallacy if a core tenet of the group is being blatantly ignored. It's only a Scotsman fallacy if the point has nothing to do with being in the group.

Hardly. Hate is a human trait, not a Christian one or any other religion.

Women can roughhouse to bond. They do it all the time. But that isn't what I'm talking about, and you know it. Apparently having female friends hasn't taught you much about broader dynamics of women's issues.

Women get women only places to be SAFE from men, not because they can't handle men having access to power. The premise is very different. For example, I'd have no problem with men having male-only gyms if they were so afraid of being sexually attacked by women they couldn't work out in peace.

The problem isn't men needing anything, so you can take that poor pity cap off and get out of the corner. The problem is men expecting everyone else to supply them with what they need because any other option doesn't even cross their mind.

If you seriously think women aren't largely treated as objectives, your head is so far in the sand, there's no hope of me digging it out. Good luck to you.

Yep. This is like calling mixed dogs "designer breeds." Nah, those are just mutts.

Some have red/ brown spots.

Because an infallible God is trying to herd very fallible people, which is way harder than trying to give a group of angry cats a bath.

He is also working through fallible people, which is why a personal relationship with Him is so important. That is essentially what Christ taught.

Just saying what their scriptures teach. You don't have to believe it, but it is much more consistent than people claiming to be Christian would make it seem.

Exactly. They are no different than Moses' people, trying to form God into an image they can live with. They don't actually understand their own doctrine.

But again, that's not because they are Christians. Christianity for them is, at best, a veneer. A smokescreen. They are filled with fear and hate, and use whatever they can to justify it. They could be any religion or none at all, and would still act the same way.

That's because they hate gays and are looking for justification, not because they believe in Christ and are seeking to become like him. Don't mistake using religion as an excuse for actual religion. If it weren't for the Bible, they'd cite something else.

You have very aptly demonstrated the core problem with the incel worldview: that women are somehow fundamentally different from men to the point that they are women first, and barely human.

The Venn diagram of traits of women and men is almost a completely overlapping circle. They aren't some alien species with different fundamental needs, drives, and capabilities.

The problem with men-only spaces isn't that they are only men. It is that they have been used historically to bar women from participating in things that would give them power.

You don't need to exclude women to give men access to male friendships. It's just that men are unused to having to work for emotional things when women are present. It's time for them to take initiative and learn to treat women like human beings instead of objectives.

Most Christians believe in the new law, which abolished sacrifice like that, so it's not the trump card you think it is.

I'm not saying you shouldn't call out religious inconsistencies, just make sure you know what you're talking about, first.

Use turning the other cheek. That's a basic tenet of Jesus, which highlights the hypocrisy of gun-toting Republican "Christians."

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