Altofaltception @ Altofaltception @lemmy.world

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Oh yeah, not sure why you're being downvoted, but the IDF said that too: they fired to disperse the crowds and prevent looting.

The IDF position is that people died because of a stampede.

Okay, fine.

What caused the stampede?

According to the IDF: the crowd started looting trucks that had arrived in the area with aid.

I love how the IDF conveniently ignores that people are starving because Israel is preventing aid trucks from getting in. Starving people will 1000% swarm a truck with food when it arrives. We have seen it happen in practically every recent famine. Hell, we even saw Jews (the ones who could still move) swarm allied troops when they liberated Nazi concentration camps.

Dehumanizing the Palestinians even more isn't going to work.

If only the US could have done something to prevent Russia from expanding its sphere of influence in the region.

Fine.

Doesn't change the fact that Israel shot at a crowd of starving people.

Firing into a crowd of thousands*

The number of casualties is going to be different.

I have read the official Israeli statement/rebuttal of this. They claim they fired on the crowd to prevent looting from occuring. They claim that any injuries and deaths are a result of the stampede.

It is obvious to anyone watching what the reality is: Israel deliberately starves Palestinian civilians, cutting off aid supplies (we have seen video evidence of aid trucks being detained and/or sent back). When food aid finally does get in and starving humans behave as starving humans do, Israel attacks them claiming they were looting.

Only an absolute braindead moron would take the Israeli statement at face value.

Which resulted in sanctions and an aid embargo immediately. And a blockade that has lasted nearly 20 years. The intention was to starve the Hamas administration to the point where it would fail and elections would be called again.

My point is if we were going to meddle, perhaps we should have just rigged the election.

https://jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Recording-released-of-Clinton-suggesting-rigging-2006-Palestinian-election-471129

Remember how in 2006 the Americans wanted to rig the Palestinian elections?

Maybe they can get it right this time. /S

Maybe a ceasefire and lifting the blockade

This is briefly mentioned in the article, but it fails to capture the scale of the disaster.

The city of Tenochtitlan was built on an island in a lake (Lake Texcoco). The Aztecs built a series of dams to control water levels in the lake. When Cortez conquered the Aztecs, he destroyed the dams. This resulted in frequent flooding in the city. In their infinite wisdom, the Spanish conquerors drained the lake, to avoid flooding. The city continued to expand into the areas previously occupied by the lake. And now here we are.

It's his own fault really for voting for Hamas. Despite living in the West Bank and also despite being -4 years old in 2005.

Can't wait to hear the Israelis justify this, saying he was a member of Hamas.

There are a few things you can do right now:

• Reduce your consumerism. Reuse and recycle as much as possible.
• Boycott all Israeli products.
• Buy local, so you don't rely on foreign shipping

It's a district called Barbers Hill, what did you expect? /S

In all seriousness though, can we have a Sikh organization sue the bejeezus out of them, as long hair is an article of their faith, and the US Constitution has a thing or two to say about freedom of religion.

Sure, and freedom of speech is considered a democratic principle.

Ladies and gentlemen, the world's largest democracy

What about white phosphorus?

Meanwhile you have a country using actual WMDs on a civilian population but you veto any attempt to stop them.

Edit: Israel has used white phosphorus munitions on civilians.

Oh boy get ready for the downvotes

Is Hamas in Damascus? Or does Israel not know east from west?

Edit: apparently Syria is Hamas.