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  • I love how there's all these science and software experts who think this is impossible, when it is clearly very easily possible. It's not a question of if it's good (it isn't) or if they should (they shouldn't).

    Hiding your heads in the sand and collectively saying they can't - in a pro-privacy group - is insane. It's like reading about how you can hack an air gapped computer and having a bunch of Amish say it's impossible.

    Maybe figure out how they are first, then talk about what to do about it. But this collective "nuh-uh!" is nuts.

  • in some parts of the world, it is, yes. And they put up cameras to catch and fine people for it. Ridiculous or not. 🤷‍♂️

    two different things: yes, you can make a plausible determination of a person's position in a car based on sensors. yes, you can also not have enough data to make that determination.

    It's absolutely possible with things like usage and gyroscopic sensors. You want to say software could never figure it out, I'll leave you to it. It's high school level physics.

  • no moving of goalposts.

    the topic is "driver or not", nothing more.

    there are four options to sit in, generally speaking.

    you're saying both people in the front have the same gyro data. That's fine; my point is she's not in the back - or if she is, such as in a taxi or uber (which is the original situation) - it's detectable.

    do you remember when phones started automatically remembering where you parked? they did that by knowing a) your speed changing b) the pedometer counting (among other things). My point is: this isn't as impossible as you and others seem to claim. That's it.

  • right, but your friend doesn't put their purse in back seat if they're sitting in the front, or visa versa, right?

    no person driving should have their phone on them when they're driving, so it's an easy spot to exclude. The rest is logic, sensors and probability.

  • "when i drive i put my phone in the center"

    that's my point. Or a holder of some kind.

    as opposed to passengers who basically never put their phones in the center console.

    especially for a taxi or uber. That would be insane.

    again: the question is: are you a driver or a passenger? And I'm saying that that distinction is very plausible to make.

    if your sole goal is to make it harder to tell in an accident, sure. This is just sensor data, not clairvoyance.